I've decided to give up on my blog's commenting system

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I have had this blog for almost 20 years, long before social media like Youtube, Facebook and Twitter existed. For a long time, my comment system was the only way I could get feedback on what I was painting and writing. And over the years you have posted 13,007 messages on 978 posts on my blog. Thank you very much!

Unfortunately, the amount of spam, attacks and hateful comments has also increased. For years I protected the humble commenting system of my PluXML blog system with honeypots, home-made captchas and services like Akismet. I also spent a lot of time moderating, but it started to ruin the little time I had offline during holidays, conferences and book signings.

My blog comment system was open to everyone, without login, and it soon became a place loved by haters. It also became a secondary destination for all the profiles I blocked on social media. 2023 was the first year I had to make a report to the police for the many death threats I received.

But I persevered: and before I gave up completely, I looked for solutions and spent more time coding them. I spent days connecting my blog to my Mastodon posts using the API and coding better protection. But then I realised that my Mastodon instance was flushing all comments older than a month [1]... Also, all my "better protections" were easy to bypass for anyone who knew a bit about VPN and the Tor browser.

So I've finally come to the point where I've decided to give up on my blog's commenting system and shut it down. And it is a very hard pill to swallow.

That doesn't mean I don't need your feedback anymore... I do!

It is simply impossible in 2023 and with the number of visitors I now have to host and manage a comment system myself. I'm sad about that.

I spent most of last week archiving all your comments, and you'll find a link to view them in the footer of my old articles. I updated my CMS, the plugins, I updated my custom code, I updated the server to a new distro and newer libraries.

My blog is ready for the next few years and I'm going to keep it up. New articles, new artworks, new brushes, new tutorials, new episodes of Pepper&Carrot: I'm sure we'll find new places to discuss about it.

I'm also going to accept the ephemeral nature of social media. I've seen so many platforms rise and die, with thousands of comments disappearing each time... I hate this data loss and I would like to archive all of our interactions somewhere.

Unfortunately, on my little piece of the internet, I can no longer create this ideal. I'll miss all the feedback just below the installation guides, which were useful for troubleshooting other configurations. I'll miss the pages of reactions to the latest episode of Pepper&Carrot. I'll miss the little words of wisdom from the regular users of the comments section.

Thanks again for all of that.

Update:
[1] This is not a policy of my Mastodon instance, just a bug that happened on the server and happened to be 30 days ago. That's why I assumed the server had a 30-day flush policy. It doesn't. This made me want to take another look at this solution in the next blog-post.


117 comments

link Jalil   - Reply
teivel@mas.to

a tough choice but it's nice that you are placing your mental health first!

link Jaime Herazo   - Reply
jherazob@mastodon.ie

Understandable, at those scales you need a moderators team, even smaller Discord servers tend to have at least a few

link Leah (Cloudstylistin)   - Reply
leah@chaos.social

sad but totally understandable. I've no comment system for the exact same reason, and asked to disable it if possible on some other occasions.

And you got death threads... wow? Didn't see that coming... so sorry to hear that but I hope you still get nice feedback on your posts here.

link marius   - Reply
mariusor@metalhead.club

I don't know if you'd be interested but it's possible to replace them with comments coming from the fediverse: cassidyjames.com/blog/fedivers

Probably needs a lot of elbow grease to adapt to other blogging platforms, but maybe it's worth knowing about. :)

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@mariusor Hey, I mention in the article I tried. Thank you.

See the screenshot under for my comments system integration (on right) in-sync with my Mastodon account (on left).

It was cached, used PHP and API, and was working nicely. I made it from scratch.

Except for a single big issue: my mastodon instance flushes all the external messages after 30 days. I realized it after 2 days of dev... ... It's pointless to just show comments doomed to disappear after a month on a blog.

A side by side column of Mastodon comments; and on right the integration of the same comments (with cat avatars) on my blog. It was made in PHP with the Mastodon API and it used a cache. 10 ★

link marius   - Reply
mariusor@metalhead.club

:D sorry, I guess I didn't pay proper attention to the text.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@mariusor No problem, that was a good excuse for me to share proudly a screenshot result of the code I took 2 days on it and never used 😆

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link F4GRX Sébastien   - Reply
f4grx@chaos.social

@mariusor Why not copy the incoming fediverse comments locally to avoid deletion?

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link zzz   - Reply
diarra

@f4grx

That is what I was about to suggest !
Get the comments from the Fedi
Save 'em locally
Filter & display 'em on the website :amethyst:

@mariusor

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@diarra @f4grx There is a legal issue doing that, if you mirror this way, it breaks the GDPR European regulation. You can, but you have to propose to the owner of the comments a right for deletion, edition, changing name, and forgetting all their comment (and this, in less than 24h). On a small blog like I do, it requires the dev of a custom tool for management I don't have.

@mariusor

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link F4GRX Sébastien   - Reply
f4grx@chaos.social

@diarra @mariusor ah, yes, thats why you cant, of course.

link Jerry Wham   - Reply
jerry_wham@toot.aquilenet.fr

@diarra @f4grx @mariusor il faudrait se baser sur l'IP et le pseudo comme les générateurs d'avatar pour éditer le post peut-être ?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@jerry_wham Sans doute. En tout cas, c'est compliqué d'authentifier qqun⋅e : certains fournisseurs d'accès change l'IP. Certain⋅e⋅s changent de pseudo, ou l'orthographie mal en cours de route. Ca rends toutes opération de batch sur une identité dans un blog une opération souvent difficile et avec une authentification basé sur la bonne foie. J'ai eu le cas une seule fois avec PLuXML pour le droit à l'oubli de coms, et c'était plus d'une heure dédié de taf pour ça.

@diarra @f4grx @mariusor

link zzz   - Reply
diarra

Bon apparemment t'as creusé le sujet GRPD ; c'est sûr que si les users doivent obligatoirement avoir la possibilité de supprimer (mais pas éditer, n'est ce pas ?) leurs commentaires, ça complexifie la tâche.

Dans ce cas ne pourrait-on pas leur encoyer un lien unique par un bot masto dédié, qui enverrait un toot direct (privé) en cas de demande de suppression ?

@jerry_wham @f4grx @mariusor

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@diarra Alors si: les messages doivent offrir la possibilité d'être édité. Mais ça peut-être en envoyant un email, sous 24h (ça doit être écris dans les ToS).

Pour des solutions techniques; le mieux c'est encore le compte avec login/pass; et laisser l'user éditer/supprimer ses trucs; c'est ce que je conseillerai aux espaces commentaires de blog moderne. Mais ça transforme vite un simple espace commentaire en un forum 😆

@jerry_wham @f4grx @mariusor

link Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻   - Reply
oliviersaraja@mamot.fr

Non... Des menaces de mort, sérieusement? T'es un des types les plus chics que je connaisse, toujours simple et bienveillant, et qui donne et partage sans rechercher de retour. Je suis atterré par ce que j'ai lu et appris là... #soutien

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@oliviersaraja Merci, oui. Et tu imagines le niveau de harcèlement qu'il faut pour que je me décide à faire tout un dossier et aller faire une déposition. C'est comme ça, certains s'amuse.

Tiens, j'ai guardé une fois ce vieux screenshot:

Une copie d'écran avec des insultes et des menaces de mort. 5 ★

link Olivier Saraja ☕️📚🦖🛸👻   - Reply
oliviersaraja@mamot.fr

Atterré n'est finalement pas un mot assez fort. Je suis en train de me remplir de colère... Courage, mon ami.

link Jour   - Reply
Jour@mastodon.sdf.org

@oliviersaraja

😖 Oh my...some people definitely need medication or jail time if it doesn't work...or maybe both.
Be safe.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Jour

@oliviersaraja

link Olivier Forget   - Reply
teleclimber@social.tchncs.de

@oliviersaraja Quelle horreur.

link sooz   - Reply
sooz@mastodon.art

Wow, that screenshot showing the death message... That is horrifying and very disappointing. I'm so sorry that is something you've had to deal with.

link zzz   - Reply
diarra

Oula mais y'a des gens qui s'ennuient sévèrement la :blobthinkingeyes:

@oliviersaraja

link StephaneHuart   - Reply
StephaneHuart@mastodon.social

@oliviersaraja M'enfin... 😑 Soutien à toi!

link Air   - Reply
Air

@oliviersaraja soutien aussi 🤗 (c'est hallucinant)

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link Kujiu   - Reply
kujiu@tiphon.nerv-project.eu

Soutien inconditionnel !

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@kujiu Merci

link Nath   - Reply
roipoussiere@mastodon.tetaneutral.net

Tout d'abord merci pour ce retour d'expérience et pour avoir tenu bon pendant ces nombreuses années.
Je dois avouer que j'ai été surpris d'apprendre qu'il y ait autant de modération à faire (menaces de mort, sérieux ?) pour un blog qui n'évoque pas vraiment des sujets polémiques.
Est-ce que connais globalement quels sont tes contenus ou prises de positions qui inciterait à autant de haine de la part des rageux ?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@roipoussiere Merci. Oh, j'ai pas mal de pro NFT, les pro AI generative art (un peu), l'affaire Stallman aussi m'a envoyé une bonne vague de toxique dans le monde du FLOSS. Le CoC aussi. Oh, et le bisous lesbien dans Pepper&Carrot, cette case 'imposé aux enfants' n'a pas plu dans certains pays et parmis certaines communeauté. Aussi, je me moque souvent de Meta, Twitter, et les soutients inconditionels de Muskito ont souvent un bingo gagnant dans plusieurs catégories opposé à ma philosophie.

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link F4GRX Sébastien   - Reply
f4grx@chaos.social

@roipoussiere soutien inconditionnel

link Jean-Baptiste   - Reply
jibec@mamot.fr


Terrible de lire tout ça, tout mon soutien et merci/bravo de l'avoir partagé
@roipoussiere

link Tirifto   - Reply
tirifto@miniwa.moe

@roipoussiere L’affaire Stallman a été toxique par nature, alors ça n’a pu apporté rien de bon. (Désolé si j’en ai l’air amer, mais comme j’aime le logiciel libre, ça reste gravée dans ma tête comme une épisode très triste de tous son côtés. :/)

link Nath   - Reply
roipoussiere@mastodon.tetaneutral.net

@tirifto
J'ai pas suivi l'épisode avec Stallman, c'était quoi en gros ?
(j'enlève David des mentions pour pas spammer ses notifs)

link Tirifto   - Reply
tirifto@miniwa.moe

@roipoussiere En bref, Stallman a dit/fait des choses qui ont été perçus comme des mal placées. En 2019, un article le critiquant est devenu populaire et beaucoup propagé par les media. Alors à cause de ça, il est parti du Conseil d’administration de FSF. Le problème, c’était que l’article avait des informations douteux ou mal comprises, et les journaux les ont tordues en plus. (Par exemple en disant qu’il a défendu Epstein, qui a été condamné pour la violation des mineurs, même s’il na jamais fait ça.)

Puis en 2021, il est revenu à le Conseil d’administration, cette fois-ci pas comme le président, mais comme un membre ordinaire. Le problème, c’était qu’ils l’ont annoncé soudainement, sans avoir prévenir personne, et sans même adresser ce qui s’est passé 2 années en avant, en cours de la conférence LibrePlanet (à qui David aussi a participé sans rien savoir de ça).

En peu de temps après ça, on a publié une lettre ouverte postulant la résignation du Conseil entier, et aussi celle de Stallman de GNU. La lettre a reçu des environ 3000 signatures, avec beaucoup des noms bien connus et respectés entre eux. Le probléme, c’était que la lettre avait référée à le même article qui a été publiée 2 années en avant (avec sa propre historie problématique et sans aucune réflexion), et avait aussi ajouté des autres accusations, faites en grande part dans la mauvaise foi, et en ignorant complètement sons comportements bons à côté des mauvaises. Et bien sûr elle a été signée aussi des quelques personnes et organisations qui aimaient vraiment pas des idées du logiciel libre ; ça n’a aidée son image non plus. (Une

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link Nath   - Reply
roipoussiere@mastodon.tetaneutral.net

@tirifto merci beaucoup pour ton explication détaillée ! 🙂

link Tirifto   - Reply
tirifto@miniwa.moe

@roipoussiere Je suis content si ça t’a aidé. ^ ^ Et j’espère qu’elle était assez bien lisible.

link JD_D   - Reply
jd_d@hostux.social

@roipoussiere je pense que ne pas utiliser photoshop est très polémique et politique... Dans le milieu de la création digitale du moins.
Mettre son travail graphique sous licence libre aussi.

link Moini   - Reply
Moini

Oh, wow... it's sad, but understandable why that is necessary.

I'll just move to commenting, congratulating and cheering you on here, then!

🧙‍♀️ 🎨 🖌️

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link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Moini Hey Moini! Yay, good to see you here!

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link Marco Bresciani   - Reply
AAMfP@fosstodon.org


I was following you on Twitter and when I moved here I decided to keep only your RSS, but now it's time to follow you back also here.
And my first comment/feedback is: good choice. Unfortunate, but good choice.
Keep up! 🖖🏻

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@AAMfP Thank you

link phαη†⊕m :fedora: 🎸 🏳️‍🌈 ⏚   - Reply
Steve12L@mamot.fr

Je viens juste de lire, j'hallucine.
Tout mon soutien.
Ce monde me fait...
#soutine

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Steve12L Merci. Oui pour le monde. Parfois, souvent même recemment. 😔

link phαη†⊕m :fedora: 🎸 🏳️‍🌈 ⏚   - Reply
Steve12L@mamot.fr

Ça pue les chemises brunes, que je n'aime pas cette odeur.
Et tu vois, hasard ou pas, avant de te répondre, j'écoutais "Ma France' et 'Nuit et Brouillard' de Jean Ferrat.
Ceci étant, quand à toi, ne lâche rien.
"Les chiens aboient, la caravene passe."

link Jour   - Reply
Jour@mastodon.sdf.org


What a adorable little drawing.
I'm following you since a few months ago , but I totally understand your situation regarding spam and hate mail.
What I'm surprised is with the death threats... Then again the www as we know it is becoming more and more agressive.
Anyway do share your blog posts around here. 💜🎩

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Jour Thank you 💜
Yes, more and more aggressive but on Mastodon less and less; they are excluded by moderation doing its amazing work at a federation level. It's building a bubble of good human interaction and that's nice. Twitter was a big driver of negative comments on my blog, IMO, and also obscure Fediverse instances when they could still federate with my account. I hope the coming days will be easier on this side. Thanks for following my art!

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link D. Moonfire   - Reply
dmoonfire@octodon.social

I'm saddened that it came down to that; you've gone through much of the same reasons I dropped comments from my system, from the trying to find a service to help, folks bypassing it, and trying to write my own.

2023 was the first year I had to make a deposit to the police for the many death threats I received.

That breaks my heart, not only that people continually make the threats because they don't ever suffer the consequences but also because you have to pay to deal with them because of frequency.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@dmoonfire Thanks for your nice words.

And sorry about my bad usage of the word "Deposit", it's because in French do a statement/report to the police is named "une Déposition". I fixed the article, police didn't asked me any money. But I spent time, a lot of time on making my dossier.

link D. Moonfire   - Reply
dmoonfire@octodon.social

Ah, that makes more sense. Of course, the fact I think it is plausible that the police would charge for handling death threats is a sad state of my own world view. :(

Depositions? Those I don't like either. Though usually mine were to lawyers, not police.

I've had my share of death threats and I do not enjoy them. I wouldn't wish them on anyone, even the folks I dislike.

Take care and thank you for being awesome.

link fsnk :NeonCat:   - Reply
fsnk@mastodon.acc.sunet.se


honestly can't conceive of how broken someone has to be to send death threats to the creator of Pepper & Carrot, which is quite possibly the most wholesome thing on the entire internet

I'm sorry that happened to you

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@fsnk Thank you for your kind words.

link raphael   - Reply
gekitsu@toot.cat

kudos for holding out for so long. i feel like we have seen the decline of comment systems for a good long while now, with how increasingly more involved it becomes to manage one to a degree that you’re not opening yourself to legal problems, or just a completely bad time.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@gekitsu Thanks. Oh yes, you are right: the GDPR made also things a bit more complex from a legal point of view. I took this change for granted, but it was a work to add the ToS to my blog to explain how the post are stored, how they can be edited, how user can ask for deletion, etc..

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link Bshow   - Reply
bobbyshow

C'est vraiment triste que même pour un artiste comme toi (dans les convictions que tu portes, et surtout dans le dessin, magnifique 💎) tu puisses te faire emmerder.

Se dire qu'à cause d'idiots, tu dois te "censurer" dans tes interactions, c'est chiant.
Mais l'important, c'est ton bien être pour continuer à proposer ce que tu souhaites.

Soutien incompressible , parce que ton contenu, c'est vraiment stylé (pour moi :D)

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@bobbyshow Merci.

link   - Reply
Wiaaam@mastodon.top

C'est vraiment fou que des gens envoient de tels commentaires, je n'en reviens pas! Tout mon soutien!!!

link gee Ⓐ⚑   - Reply
gee

je te comprends tellement... Perso j'ai pris cette décision il y a 8 ans et j'ai jamais regretté. Tellement plus de sérénité quand je publie un truc !

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link Your Autistic Life   - Reply
yourautisticlife@fedi.yourautisticlife.com

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org That is sad.

I did have a blog that I eventually killed for a lot of reasons. It did have a commenting system on it, but I was never very popular, and I was able to keep the idiots at bay.

I've been writing on Medium and substack... and my presences is growing in the fediverse. I now have a Firefish instance, from which I post my thoughts into the fediverse. I've been thinking of opening up registrations, but I'm almost certainly going to require payment, to turn away the jackasses that would like to ruin everybody's experience.

It sucks when people can't behave.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@yourautisticlife Thank you and yes.

Off topic: but do you know where I could read why FireFish split from Misskey? I couldn't find a lot of info about it. ( nothing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefish , or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misskey )

link Linebyline   - Reply
linebyline@bytetower.social

@yourautisticlife All I know is FireFish is a renamed CalcKey. I know basically nothing about it other than that it exists and uses ActivityPub, so I couldn't tell you why it split from Misskey or why it changed its name. The official site doesn't shed any light either. Chris Trottier/Atomic Poet would know; I've seen him posting about it. But if he's publicly given the specific reasons, I either didn't see it (likely, as I don't follow him) or forgot (likely...I don't remember why).

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@linebyline Thank you. I'm interested to know if it the project has a interesting ethic and values, and if they need a mascot 😺

@yourautisticlife

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link Your Autistic Life   - Reply
yourautisticlife@fedi.yourautisticlife.com

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @linebyline@bytetower.social linebyline gave you the lowdown. Firefish is Calckey under a new name. Building it is not for the faint of heart. I used the Ubuntu script... which alas does not run as-is in a Debian system. The script won't tell you where the problems are.

link Marlene Breitenstein Art   - Reply
breitensteinart@mastodon.art

Meet @atomicpoet. AFAIK, Firefish wasn't a split from MissKey, just a renamed CalcKey, but Chris can fill you in on the actuals. There's a logo, but a mascot by you is a great idea!

I adore your work, and discovered it here. Furthermore, I believe after you adjust, you'll find a big weight has been lifted from your shoulders. We will keep expressing our gratitude to you and adoration of your characters here. 🙏✌️❤️

I recently started my blog without comments, so I'll never miss them.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@breitensteinart Thank you. Ha, I see another project CalcKey. I understand now why the renaming: I accidentally mixed up CalcKey and MissKey. It's probably to avoid that. I'll have a look at the project official website and repo.

@atomicpoet@calckey.social

link At Mind   - Reply
atmind@mstdn.social

That is sad to hear, a hard but well understood decision. We give you a warm hug and heart from the both of us! Keep up your amazing art and comics.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@atmind

link Garillaz ⏚   - Reply
garillaz@piaille.fr

soutien++

link Aurélien Gâteau 🇺🇦   - Reply
agateau@mastodon.xyz

That is really sad, but not surprising :(.

An alternative I am playing with (but I am very far from having your audience size) is to add a link "Discuss this article on Mastodon" at the end of my posts. With just a link (not inlined Mastodon comments), you give readers a place to comment but the moderation stays on Mastodon side.

link Aurélien Gâteau 🇺🇦   - Reply
agateau@mastodon.xyz

Ah, I too, missed the part where you said your Mastodon instance deletes older comments 🤦🏻

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@agateau Thanks. No problem and I just added a little '[1]' update: I got news from my instance, Framapiaf isn't removing automatically the comments after 30 days. I assumed it was like that because of a bias: 30 days ago they flushed accidentally it during an upgrade. it's not planned for it to happen again in the future.
So, maybe adding a masto ID in my admin panel and writing a link in the footer to invite to read comments is probably something I'll do.

link Carl Schwan :kde:   - Reply
carlschwan@floss.social

@agateau If you plan to do that, here is the helpful link :) carlschwan.eu/2020/12/29/addin

link Aurélien Gâteau 🇺🇦   - Reply
agateau@mastodon.xyz

@carlschwan Your article has been in the back of my mind as something to add to my blog since you wrote it :), but I recently reconsidered the idea because of moderation. I was worried about not being able to moderate content which would show directly on my site

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@agateau That's a good point. With my cache of 4h, I made a mechanism in my admin panel of my blog where I could renew the cache immediately for a given article. This way, if a bad comment appears on Mastodon, I would have to moderate it from Masto, and if my blog caught it before I moderate it, I would have to connect to my admin panel and force refresh the article (or wait 4h for the next refresh). Doable with a smartphone. But more works than just linking directly on masto.

@carlschwan

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@carlschwan @agateau It's what I did last week 🙂 (fully php, with a cache that catches the API json file once every 4h to not overload my instance with all my visitors and your code was inspiring, I had the bookmark open all the time during integration Carl 💜 (thanks for the recent update).
I abandoned it because I thought my instance was trashing all comments after 30 days.

Maybe I'll digg back in my git history to find it and reinstall it. It was like 100% ready: screenshots:

A screenshot of Mastodon on left, and the thread mirrored on my blog on right. I used my cat avatar. A screenshot of the footer of the blog post with instruction about synchronisation of comments. 5 ★

link Carl Schwan :kde:   - Reply
carlschwan@floss.social

@agateau Once you find it back from your git history, I could probably mention your solution on my blog post since a few readers asked me for a php /server side solution

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@carlschwan Right. I'll try to publish the core of the code on the post, an easy version without all the catavatar, integration to PluXML , etc... just a core. I'll take example from your blog post.

@agateau

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link Algot   - Reply
Algot@mastodon.art

Glad to be a follower here in the fediverse.

Thank you for the great work you do, and don't beat yourself up about cutting off the commenting system. Mean-spirited bozos are too much drain on a person to endure.

Bon chance!

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Algot Thank you / Merci! 🙂

link Poroto Sórdido   - Reply
porotosordido@mastodon.social


That's reasonable and understandable, yet it's still a bit sad. At least we still have spaces like this one.

link Fred le bel   - Reply
fred42


Je suis désolé d'apprendre ça, mais t'as eu raison. Priorité à la santé.
Courage à toi.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@fred42 Merci

link Jookia   - Reply
jookia@social.tchncs.de

If anything this will allow you to migrate to a static system eventually.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@jookia Hey Jookia! 👋 Yes, I think it is on the way.

link Xuan-Xabier Huynh   - Reply
YudranArt@mastodon.social

Je me connecte très rarement à mastodon, et aujourd'hui que j'y passe en coup de vent j'apprends la triste nouvelle, et ce alors que je n'ai commenté que deux ou trois fois sur le blog :( C'est dommage, mais assez compréhensible vu ce que tu décris, le pire étant les menaces de morts pour un rien. T'es quelqu'un de super sympa et attentionné, t'as toujours répondu à mes questions quand je t'ai contacté : ça m'attriste et enrage que tu ais dû subir tout ça. :( Hug de soutient.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@YudranArt Merci, c'est sympa ! Ca reste une petite minorité, mais une assez active pour que j'ai toujours la charge mentale que le blog pouvait être dégueulassé à tout moment. Du coup, j'emportait une machine partout avec moi, même en vacance pour réagir vite. J'ai compris de passage à Lyon au Framacamp en discutant que c'était plus tenable. J'avais déjà eu la tentation durant les Geekfaeries en début Juin ou j'avais eu de la modo à faire en plein festival...

link Err.503 Democratie Unavailable   - Reply
Nicoledit


Ça ne sera sûrement pas suffisant pour contrebalancer toutes ces horreurs, mais tiens, prends ça :

Et merci pour tout tes magnifiques dessins et BD 😍

link NiTroll Robin 🥔   - Reply
Troll@maly.io


Vraiment triste pour toi.

Soutien et courage pour la suite, j'espère que ces gens haineux prendront un jour conscience de leur bêtise et du mal qu'ils font.

link lareinedeselfes   - Reply
lrde@mastodon.tedomum.net

pareil que l'ami @Troll ❤️ !
Je te fais des gros bisouscâlinous
pour te redonner courage et faire fuir les mots de ces gens pleins de haine.
Celleux qui apprécient tes dessins trouveront toujours un moyen de te le faire savoir. même de façon éphémère. 😍

Attention, attaque de bisous câlinous !
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link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@lrde

😍 😍 😍

@Troll

2 ★

link Zekovski   - Reply
Zekovski@pouet.chapril.org


Désolé d'apprendre ça.
J'espère que ça va te libérer d'un poids mentalement et que tu pourras te sentir plus tranquille.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Zekovski Merci

link Geoff   - Reply
GeoffHale@mastodon.social

You make people smile and I am glad I found you - and Pepper and Carrot - here.

You need to look after yourself - so you are doing the right thing.

Be well ! And thank you.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@GeoffHale

link Disciple, sers la science   - Reply
bakaniko

link libresurf   - Reply
libresurf@pouet.chapril.org


Bon sang ! Mais qu'est devenu internet pour en arriver là ?

Je comprends ta décision et de soutiens dans ce sens.

Bon courage et surtout continue de nous ravir avec tes merveilleuses créations !

link Jerry Wham   - Reply
jerry_wham@toot.aquilenet.fr

je dirais "et merde! Encore un" 😞 Comme de nombreux autres bloggers (Timo, sebsauvage, Gee...) les espaces de commentaires disparaissent les 1 après les autres. Je n'ai pas bien compris pourquoi tu ne parviens pas à faire une copie des commentaires de masto. Déporter les commentaires n'est pas une bonne idée ? Tu ne peux pas profiter de la modération de l'instance que tu utilises ? En tous cas, tu as mon humble soutien et mes remerciements pour tout ce que tu partages

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@jerry_wham Merci!

Pour les commentaires de Masto; j'ai eu plus d'infos après la publication de mon article.
Il y a eu un accident de manip côté mon instance et les réponses à tous mes toots sont parties à la poubelle. Ne le savant pas, j'avais déduit à tord que le serveur mettait à la poubelle toutes réponses de plus d'un mois. Du coup j'avais abandonné mon code qui synchronisait mon blog et mon Masto. J'ai mis à jour une note dans l'article. Je vais reétudier ça.

link morph   - Reply
morph@morph.todon.de

✊🏻

link Touhoppai   - Reply
touhoppai@mastodon.social

C'est horrible ce qu'il t'arrive.
Courage, on est tous derrière toi !

link Linebyline   - Reply
linebyline@bytetower.social

It takes so much more work and energy to to build up and to maintain than to destroy. It's a shame that a handful of cranks can ruin something good for so many. But that's certainly not your fault, and I fully support your decision. I'm just sad it came to that.

link Aks   - Reply
aks@fedi.akselmo.dev

i had comments in my blog too, it was pretty much always harassment or other unwanted crap. Removing the comment section and replacing it with a link to a mailing list made it more tolerable: if someone really wants to say something, they gotta send email that shows publicly to everyone. It's a big hurdle and thus keeps undesirables mostly away.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@aks Thanks for the tip of the mailing list. It's the first time I read this solution and I find it to be a good idea.

link ktanner :gentoo: :openbsd:   - Reply
ktanner@fosstodon.org

😲 Yikes! It's terrible to have to put up with that. You've convinced me to never add a commenting system to anything I put online. But, seriously - thanks for sharing your wonderful talent and art work with the world.

link Nour Agha :popos:   - Reply
Nour@fosstodon.org

In case this might help anyone, I use giscus (giscus.app). Works really well since my blog repo is hosted on GitHub and no self-hosting required. Commentors would at least need a GitHub account, so would mainly be a dev demographic. Can always lock people from creating GitHub Discussions or ban them if necessary. Absolutely no tolerance for non-constructive comments either; no one has any time for that.

link ~/hyde   - Reply
hyde@lazybear.social

My mastodon comments are displayed on my Hugo blog. But, I'm on my own mastodon instance...

I have to think about a way to display them in case my instance has to disappear at some point.

It's sad, but totally understandable... 😔

link zerok   - Reply
zerok@chaos.social

@hyde Yes, it’s definitely not an easy problem to solve. I also mostly gave up on comments a long time ago but I didn’t have the load that you had and it’s amazing that you managed for so long ❤️

As for mastodon-based comments: I have a little server application for that (github.com/zerok/retoots) and I’m already thinking about adding a more long-term storage there instead of just a cache to handle disappearing servers.

link jlbec   - Reply
jlbec@mastodon.online

I'm sorry you are losing something that you find so valuable.

I personally continue to follow the Slashdot-era rule: "Never, ever read the comments." But I'm a visitor, not the owner seeking feedback.

link Klebs (Les Ateliers PHV)   - Reply
lesateliersphv@mastodon.top

Désolé que tu aies eu à gérer toute cette énergie négative. J'ai retiré les commentaires de mon site aussi mais c'était uniquement à cause des spams. Dis-toi au moins que si quelqu'un prend du temps dans sa journée pour t'agacer alors que vous ne vous connaissez même pas, c'est que tu as eu un effet sur sa vie même si ce n'est pas positif. D'une certaine façon, c'est peut-être mieux que de créer et publier du contenu qui ne suscite aucune réaction.

link Petit Lutin   - Reply
Petit_Lutin

Triste, mais j'imagine que cela devait arriver : tu avais déjà parlé des spams et de la menace de mort (dans un article ou sur Masto, je ne sais plus), et j'imagine un peu la charge mentale technique que cela a dû être pour coder des filtres antispam :/ La charge mentale émotionnelle, elle, je ne l'imagine pas (soutien)

link Petit Lutin   - Reply
Petit_Lutin

C'est vrai qu'il y avait des échanges très intéressants dans les commentaires (même en les lisant plusieurs années après !), mais j'étais la première à moins commenter sur le blog que sur Masto, et je ne pense pas être la seule...

link toverna   - Reply
toverna@vivaldi.net

Understandable. Hope all nice people will still be in touch with you.

link Le piaf   - Reply
spf

link redstrate   - Reply
redstrate@mastodon.art

sad but understandable, there's definitely a "tipping point" I've seen for websites with a lot of traffic/interaction. sad that hate speech ruins it for everyone :-/

link haaadr   - Reply
haaadr@mastodon.gamedev.place

Sad, but understandable. Moderation is one of the challenges of our times and maybe something that can only work in communities where we can help each other.

FWIW, if you ever revisit this there's a thing called cactus comments which basically implements comments via the matrix chat protocol, so your comment section is like a matrix room (and AFAIK you can moderate it in a similar way to matrix rooms, so others could help you). cactus.chat/

link Matt Gemmell   - Reply
mattgemmell@mastodon.scot

@ctietze I did that almost twelve years ago, and have never looked back.

link YoYunix   - Reply
yoyunix@mastodon.social

It’s a shame to see the end of this system, but I understand why. It’s a shame that I won’t be able to read the comments after every blog post anymore, which is something that I found almost as interesting as the posts themselves. Maybe you could implement links to the posts you made on your socials where people can comment at the bottom of the blog posts, but I can understand why you wouldn’t.

link Nogweii   - Reply
nogweii@nogweii.net

I'm sorry to hear that, though I think people have found using WebMentions and/or federated responses to be a pretty sufficient alternative.


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