Pepper&Carrot (heavy) derivation: the case of the succesful Bulgarian book publishing by Prikazka-Igra

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The publisher Prikazka-igra just ended their crowd-funding campaign for publishing their Bulgarian translation of Pepper&Carrot. It was a success with over 1700 books sold. Congratulation to them!

Now their campaign is over you can still buy a copy: it's just now a bit more expensive than when they ran the campaign (for classic inventory/batch printing reasons).

The cool side

You can read for free their Bulgarian translation: the page of the campaign contains two links to the PDFs in low quality but good enough to be read on a tablet. This is really cool to show the digital version of the final product and I understand why it convinced many visitors to support this campaign. The publisher already has published other books so I can imagine an audience already trusting their quality and they propose a full preview before buying it. That's nice.

The PDFs are published under the CC-By-Nc-Nd-2.5 license, a good surprise because my other commercial publishers (eg. Glénat or ex TokyoPop) often goes full Copyrighted with their derivation . Indicating a license with clear rules is always a benefit over Copyrighted content, even if this CC-By-Nc-Nd-2.5 doesn't allow editing, derivation and commercial usage. But at least, it allows me to re-host the PDF on my 'print' directory. This is useful for archiving or sharing non-commercially copies.

The books received a lot editing: each comic pages received a background texture instead of the white separator of the panel and sketches were inserted, giving to this publishing a unique look. The publisher told me it is promised to be print on high quality paper and hardcover. The publisher also promised to share a part of the profit of the campaign in 2023.


Attribution, license and nice presentation.

The "meh" side

2022-10-11 Update: Each topics under I disliked or was confused about were carefully answered by the publisher and the community in the comments. It gives context and depth to the decision and I feel better now about the changes knowing that. To avoid the reader to jump back and forth between the blog-post and the comment section, I took the liberty to plug the answer of Nikola Raykov, the publisher, directly in-between the points of my original article.

I found a panel removed: the Kiss of Shichimi and Torreya and a dialog changed (Torreya is now a 'friend' of Shichimi, not her girlfriend). You'll find on the Pepper&Carrot website the original episode un-edited if you want to compare.


A panel was removed, depicting the cute Lesbian kiss of Torreya and Shichimi.

Nikola Raykov: First let me clarify that we do not have different words in Bulgarian for a "friend" and a "girlfriend", both are "приятелка". The two girls might still be intimate friends, we just don't get to see the actual kiss. The reason for this is very simple. This panel would have caused a scandal in Bulgaria, the whole comics would have been labeled LGBT propaganda (especially considering the fact that there are no male heroes in it at all). Our audience as a publisher includes very small kids. It would have been a huge problem for something that is actually a very small detail and does not have any relevance to the main story. As an author myself I completely understand David's opinion. I would have been irritated if somebody made a similar change in my works, but I just don't think the hate and the labeling of the whole comics is worth it for something that is so insignificant. If it was important for the main story or the message of the work (like in V for Vendetta for example) it would have been very different story.

I don't understand Bulgarian, but I used an app that converted my screen-shot of the PDF so I could translate the text. Something I could spot on the same page: "O, боже..." (translated by "Oh God...") that are clearly not a choice of wording I would use as a die-hard atheist.

BirdOfPrey: [...] in Eastern Europe it is completely normal to use "O, боже..." even if you are completely not religious, it's more of a set expression at this point.

Nikola Raykov: This was already explained above, so no need to go into details, a lot of atheists would use this as an expression, but if I knew this will irritated David, I would have used different wording.

They also removed episodes to pack the series into two books of 100 pages (eg. of missing episodes: Episode 1 with the potion of flight, Episode 7 with the Wish, Episode 13: the pyjama party, Ep26 Books are Great and Ep30 need a hug).

Nikola Raykov: Episodes were not removed. It was rather a selection of the other episodes that left some of the others out. We are a very small publishing house and we do only 2 projects per year. I wanted to be able to tell the whole story of Pepper and Carrot (up to this point), but anything above 2 books of 100 pages would have been an overkill trying to publish and sell it. So we picked up all the episodes that are related to the main stories and left out the single ones (such as summer special, Christmas special, etc.). I would love to publish them at some point in the future if the comics are well accepted by the audience (I would also love to include some of wiki info and David's conceptual art).

I also saw a speechless episode (episode 25: There is no shortcut) receiving a special treatment: dialogs were written for this one and pasted over.

Nikola Raykov: After all the single episodes were left out, this turned out to be the only silent one. It looked extremely strange as if in the middle of the story all characters just lost their ability to speak. My goal through the whole time was to try to create a consistent story. This is also the reason why Episode 19 was moved right after Episode 12 (don't know if David has not noticed this change or he likes it as it makes sense).

I also found issues with fonts (see picture at the end of the article), and frame around rounded panel not really well integrated.

So, as you already understood by the title of this article, this version of Pepper&Carrot is heavy derivated. Unfortunately, I can't really measure the magnitude of the changes because my process for translating is long and tedious.

Is it allowed?

Yes, these changes are totally legal because it is indicated on the first page along the mentioned Creative Commons license. I translated this part too to be sure about it, and they indicated this version of Pepper&Carrot received large editing of Panel, episodes, and speech-bubbles. This license and this indication is then totally compliant with the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International rules...

So, it's not what I consider infringing to my moral as an author. I can still be proud to be quoted as the author of the ending product, and it is still (I guess; I haven't translated everything) very OK to get my name on it, but I just consider this edit "far from official Pepper&Carrot".

As I have no idea of the political/religious/comic-industry context in Bulgaria, I'll probably not try to project any bad intentions about it and focus about the effort that went into this derivation to "improve" it to the audience of this publisher.


I made the episode 25 without any speechbubble, but the version of Prikazka-igra above reintroduce a dialog written by themselves.

Matter for thought about derivations...

I'm sincerely happy Prikazka-Igra made a successful crowd-funding, especially −I'm not gonna lie− for the part where they promised to share benefits. The work to publish the next episodes of Pepper&Carrot became super complex and living in this world is more and more expensive. Any financial help can be converted into more production time, so I can develop this series as I want. So any help is warmly welcome. I wish more publisher across the globe would imitate this initiative.

It also shows me a real example of how the content can be edited before publishing. It's a real life situation of what is a derivation and it was a good opportunity to question my feeling about it. I don't agree with this removal of the cute Lesbian kiss of Torreya and Shichimi, but I allow that because it is part of giving freedom as I do with the Pepper&Carrot license.

The crowd-founding contain a very honest preview the PDFs and there will be no surprise (I guess) for the audience who bought it. That's part of the work of a publisher to adapt a work to an audience (I remember the heavy cut of scenes from the anime I watched when I was a kid on French TV, with many dialog rewritten).

If I would have wanted my story and words to not be changed: I would have selected the ND/non-derivative option on the Creative Commons license and I didn't.

I just hope this publishing will contribute to welcome a new Bulgarian audience, willing to discover the original version of Pepper&Carrot later, and maybe contribute to a faithfull and free/libre translation on the website and join the 60 other translations of Pepper&Carrot!


On a technical end-note: look at the 'big number' and how they are cropped.
it's a mix of publisher not downloading the font,
mixed with a regression of Inkscape.
It is somehow sad to see this issue of rendering...

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link Punx   - Reply

See, Bulgaria is Orthodox Christian country, so they're minding thier traditions, as some of Eastern European countries still do.

link BirdOfPrey   - Reply

Yes, and I want to add that in Eastern Europe it is completely normal to use "O, боже..." even if you are completely not religious, it's more of a set expression at this point. Overall, most of the mentioned edits are very understandable, and even though I can see how those changes can leave a bit of bitter aftertaste for David, I think it was a good/smart idea overall, considering the culture of those countries.

Although I don't really understand why they felt the need to add dialogue for the textless episode.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Thanks for the clarification about "O, боже...".

Yes, I can also understand the edit considering the culture. I'm not blaming the publisher directly. I can even imagine they totally don't bother about the kiss personally and love the series as it is, but at the same time feel they would get only attack and backfire if they publish this 'as it is' on their country, bookshop, and local culture. I'm also sure that if I had a usual publishing contract in France, my publisher would sell the right to other countries that would do the same strategy of "adaptations to their market".

> Although I don't really understand why they felt the need to add dialogue for the textless episode.

Haha, same. Maybe this was like an open door of some sort of artistic opportunity and self-expression to have fun for them.

link reset by peer   - Reply

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/824940740698046499/988365903496347668/TheySeemToBeVeryGoodFriends.png

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

😆😆😆

link Vinay   - Reply

This may be the biggest challenge with open source art. You can create something based on your vision and that of the team of people you closely communicate with. Then you reveal it to the world and everyone is free (or even encouraged) to do with it whatever they want. It can be fun but it can also be painful. Of course those who are good at their art are typically tolerant and accept that enthusiast who create their derivatives may not be able to reach up to their "level". I love how Kiko Loureiro (current Megadeth guitar player) released his instrumental solo album called Open Source and released all the stems so everyone was free to do their own thing with it (and put vocals where there were no vocals). I think that's very cool and probably also how you envisioned it. What I don't like of what's done with the book is that they made no artistic contribution to the story (aside from adding text to a silent episode) but merely removed a human element that didn't fit their agenda. Even if it may not be strictly "forbidden", I do think it is unethical for different reasons. One is that I think a derivation shouldn't merely be a censored version. The other one is that I think it is harmful to use the full episode and remove that one tile with the kiss. It is a big slap in the face for those who felt represented by Shichimi and Torreya. I really do think that it is super harmful for someone to feel rejected like that. In particular if a few frames onwards you can have a battlefield full of kissing heterosexual couples, but a single kiss between two lesbian or bisexual girls has to be removed. Considering they didn't include all episodes anyway, I think it would be better if they'd just skip this entire episode rather than censor it. So much for the lesbian/bisexual kiss issue. As for the added text, I think that's acceptable for a derivation. As for the font issue, I think that goes to show the lack of care and attention they put into the book. If the fonts are open source and you still don't manage to print the appropriate fonts?

But yeah, what can you do against unethical practices that aren't forbidden? I do think that it would be worthwhile to make it very clear to them what you think of their practices. It may or may not help, but at least it is good for them to know.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Thank you for the feedback Vinay! You did put words on what I felt about the "slap in the face".
All I could do was to publish this blog post to communicate my feeling about it and tell them by email I posted a blog post about it.

link Arnaud   - Reply

French reader here. I just want to give a different view on the "cute lesbian kiss" removal.
Love is good. Kisses are good. People are good, be they lesbians or not.

But I would never encourage a young or anyone that can be influenced into considering lesbianism. Never.
So when reading this episode and seeing the kiss I was bummed.
There is a trend these decades in exposing such scenes. Like this would be cool, hip or what not.

Let me clarify why this is my position, if need be.
On the moral stand point, being tolerant, "accepting the differences" might seem like a positive openness.
To me however, it in fact boils down to indifference:
"Wanna be a lesbian? I don't care. Do what you will with your life."

Well sorry, but I would not watch nor let my friend jump from the roof, with tolerance... for fear that he could die.
In my experience, gay people, taken as a group are less happy than others, as their suicide rate shows.
And it might be partly due to society regard on them, but frankly I think that's only (a minor) part of the truth.
Of course I never reduce a person to its sexuality, nor would ever offend a lesbian by urging her to quit being so.

But children and wanna be adults? Don't push them this way.
The close friends I have in this situation are far from the gay-pride orgies and vocalism,
and their sexuality rather inspires me pity. I'm not talking numbers here, but on a personal, case-by-case basis.
Of my 2 daughters, may none live through this lost pain.

Now to the gay pride lobby -taken as a corporation- is an entire separate matter,
that call for tolerance but will ironically yell at reading my mind...
Let them recall that Rome and Athene have fallen with the like of them: powerful yet weak, depraved beings,
violently crushed by the next civilization. Life is not always cute to people taking vice as a standard.
And history gives clear lessons, even centuries later.
May Europe society not listen to their perverse (but lobby-loud) voice, and burn as a consequence.

So long for my fake love with tolerance. I much better love my close friends alive and homeland.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

> Don't push them this way.

Hi Arnaud, you miss fundamental info in my opinion about it: it's not a personal preference, nor something you can "push" someone into, or make them "considering lesbianism" as you wrote. We all discovered our libidos while we were teenagers and none of us made a choice about the target of our libidos. Early, we just knew what was arousal (or not) for us. That's not what I call a choice (maybe bisexuals can choose? idk...). Showing this couple in the series is a sign of acceptance to those born this way. Removing this aspect of Pepper&Carrot official is not negotiable: I added them for personal reasons beyond artistic or any fashion considerations.

link Arnaud   - Reply

I very much like your answer, thanks.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Have a good evening Arnaud! 👍

link Vinay   - Reply

Sorry I don't understand everything you said here and the associations you make with Rome, Athens, Europe burning and all that. What happened in the comic? One girl saved her girlfriends life, they kissed (as they were girlfriends after all) and moved on. Homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality AND heterosexuality have always been super common in both the animal kingdom as well as in the human world. As far as I know, everything other than heterosexuality has only become a taboo with the advent of the big religions and sadly quite a few have been quite violent enforcing this taboo. So yeah, when you say "gay people, as a group, are less happy than others (apparently being the group of heterosexual people), as their suicide rate shows" do you mean to say that gay people are inherently less happy regardless of how others treat them or would it be a possibility that gay people may be less happy when judged as mentioned above, just for who they are? I'd say it is not just the correlation that matters in this context, but also the cause and effect.

link Arnaud   - Reply

> What happened in the comic [...] kissed [...] moved on.
Agreed. Yet in this blog post, we discuss it :-) And from the education standpoint, I fully relate to the publisher.

> Homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality AND heterosexuality have always been super common in both the animal kingdom as well as in the human world.
In nature yet, though kiwis (plants) and hippocampus (animals) have different (rich and interesting) ways to reproduce,
when it comes to humans, resorting to homosexuality ends either the specie reproduction or faithfulness (and love?)

Hopefully David won't mind: I think his words are very well put:
> We all discovered our libidos while we were teenagers and none of us made a choice about the target of our libidos.
While I don't fully agree, those words plainly show that there are both heterophile and homophile tendencies in every one.
Bi-sexuality well exists as feelings, natural attractions.
When it comes to acts though, One would have a hard time trying to be both faithful and bisexual in his/her acts.

> everything other than heterosexuality [...] taboo [...] religions and sadly quite a few have been quite violent enforcing this taboo.
And as you say, a long history, sadly enforced by violent/fundamuntalist persons.
Not exclusive to religions though: homosexual acts have been condemned by the law in a majority of countries and periods.
Enforced in Germany for instance, by Hitler (again) with an estimated 100,000 men arrested as homosexuals!
Yet he's far from what I'd call a religious person.
Some religions, for their credit, clearly distinguish a person from his/her acts (they've paved the way for modern justice),
and some call their members to love all humans, which should lay ground for a nice society. There is hope.

> So yeah, when you say [...] it is not just the correlation that matters in this context, but also the cause and effect.
Yeah, I would love my friends and cousins to be happy, yet they're met with challenges more fierce than "others" (bear with me), such as:
Faithfulness, parenthood, big tensions in their desire for happiness, and then of course, society look on their (potential) acts.
And I don't particularly like it but that's just how it is.

link reset by peer   - Reply

> Let them recall that Rome and Athene have fallen with the like of them:
> powerful yet weak, depraved beings, violently crushed by the next civilization.

Its a popular view that Rome 'fell' (actually it didn't, just became multiple polities, but anyway) because it was decadent, but it simply isn't supported by any reasonable reading of the historical sources. This is known as the 'weak men create hard times' fallacy and I'd be happy to post an article debunking it when I find it again. In any case, there is nothing weak, nor depraved about not being exclusively attracted to someone of a different gender than oneself.

Indeed, I'd argue that being able to ignore the ridiculous claims society sends one's way about it is a personal strength, as it relies on the evidence of the interpersonal relationship in question. Basically, it seems you are assuming being gay, bi, or otherwise non-hetero is about sex; that isn't the case, or at least isn't the whole story. Just as in heterosexual relationships, it is usually about love and can even be chaste.

> resorting to homosexuality ends either the specie reproduction or faithfulness (and love?)

Gay people have children, through the institution of surrogacy. And no, those children aren't 'manipulated' to be gay, in case you were wondering that...as David already pointed out, one can't actually change someone else's orientation, its not possible. Hundreds of 'pray away the gay' programs have tried and failed, with disastrous consequences. Studies show same-sex relationships typically have less incidence of cheating than heterosexual ones. And again, we are talking about love here, not whatever 'vice' you are imagining. I'd urge you to talk to more LGBT people if your understanding of what the life situation of your gay friends is has led you to repeat such cliches that only serve to promote homophobia and fear of people living differently than one does.

link Arnaud   - Reply

> 'weak men create hard times' fallacy
Never heard, I'll read about it and make my mind, thanks :)
Supposed elites will have a hard time leading their people and protecting them whilst living from orgy to orgy.

> there is nothing weak, nor depraved about not being exclusively
> attracted to someone of a different gender than oneself.
I was referring to LGBT lobby hope this is clear, not homosexual persons, they are strictly different.

> Indeed, I'd argue that being able to ignore the ridiculous claims society [...]
Fully agree

Gay or not, surrogacy is a less than optimal starting point to me: it's claiming a child for oneself, against nature.
No I am not afraid said children be manipulated. Sure hope they all get to see their education compensated by the alter sex though, as this is a dire need.

> I'd urge you to talk to more LGBT people
please don't mix friends in their personal sensibilities with this damned lobby.

link reset by peer   - Reply

well, I know nothing about a lobby (to me this brings to mind hobby stores). all I can speak is from my own experience, those of others I have spoken to, and from scientific research that is published. anyway, as promised here is the rebuttal essay: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yRSBkCcKp2I this is in video format as you see, I read it in text form from the same author but can't find that again.

link Arnaud   - Reply

> https://youtube.com/watch?v=yRSBkCcKp2I
Thanks for the link

link Vinay   - Reply

One part of me doesn't want to continue this discussion as it goes way beyond what Pepper and Carrot and even the Bulgarian derivative mentioned in the article is all about. But I'm reading so many false assumptions and associations that I can't let that pass.

Regarding your response, I didn't mean to say it were the religious people who exclusively discriminated non-heterosexual people. I do think however that such discrimination was taught. And yes, explicitly stated by the big religions even though they were eventually adopted by people who weren't so much tied to these religions. As for this dictator you mentioned, I don't even know whether he was religious. He was known for explicitly designating anyone who didn't fit his very specific mold as "bad". We all know how horrible this turned out to be.

On a related note, I'm surprised by your claims about a "LGBT lobby". There is no such lobby as far as I know. As I mentioned above, there has been an anti-LGBT lobby at several points in history (and even today) and there are several attempts to restore mutual respect and tolerance. But they don't push anyone in any direction, but rather enforce individuals to discover themselves and be accepted. Hence it is not a lobby as such, it doesn't promote anything, it doesn't push anyone in a direction it doesn't want to go. Whereas the anti-LGBT lobby requests LGBT people to not express who they are and not act the way they feel.

Your view on sex seems from a different world. I haven't heard of anyone who practices sex exclusively for reproduction. Nearly everyone I know does it for pleasure and I'd be surprised to find someone who completely ignores this aspect. Would a couple of individuals being attracted to others of the same sex end the species? Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't act like a "stop" button, in case someone told you it does. And yes, non-heterosexual individuals can definitely contribute to the next generation. First of all simply because people naturally lived in herds and the complete herd cared for the young, not just the biological parents. So it didn't by any means hurt to have a few who haven't been pregnant or haven't made another one pregnant at some point. In fact, a while ago in a local zoo (Artis Natura Magistra in Amsterdam) found an abandoned vulture egg and put it in the nest of a homosexual vulture couple. The hatched the egg, raised the chick which has eventually successfully been released on Sardinia. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43786685). So yes, this gay vulture couple helped save the species from extinction, nowhere near your awkward claims.

I've seen you mention words like "orgy", "weak", "surrogacy" etc which are completely unrelated to sexual orientation and especially unrelated to his comic, so I won't bother discussing that.

As I mentioned, I was already torn on whether to even respond here. You may post again and I may or may not respond. But if I don't, doesn't mean I approve or agree.

link Arnaud   - Reply

> this discussion as it goes way beyond what Pepper and Carrot
> and even the Bulgarian derivative mentioned in the article is all about.

You're right, let's end. I think we walk this world with 100% complementary
(or opposed, depending) views: sharing a good beer would make this a positive
discussion, but here is not the place...
Sorry I misinterpreted you! It goes both ways though:
> Your view on sex seems from a different world. I haven't heard
> of anyone who practices sex exclusively for reproduction
That one is so out of nowhere I had a big laugh, I owe you,
man: it's so remote from what I said, and live :D

Have a nice day

link Arnaud   - Reply

I love Pepper and Carrot, David : thanks for this great, yet too often thankless work of open art, and the frequent help to the community as a whole!

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Thank you very much! And also for sharing your thought.
I hope you'll continue to like the project, the story and my contributions to FLOSS. 👍

link Boyan Yordanov   - Reply

I received my copies today. First things first, they did a very good job with the actual book design and construction. It's a beautiful representation of your work. And I was happy to back it because I want to see more comics, especially such suitable for all ages, being published in Bulgarian.

I stumbled on this post, while I was looking for references to add some context for English speaking friends when I shared pictures of the books, because for my shame this is the first time I heard about the series.

I intentionally didn't read the PDFs or the source ahead of receiving the books and I have to say that I'm not particularly happy to discover the changes mentioned here. I don't know the publisher, so I'll reserve judgement until I read both versions, but it does indeed seem like an attempt at making it easier to digest for the local audience. However I still think that it's at least a little misguided because in my experience younger people aren't really religious or conservative and wouldn't mind it at all, especially those that would buy a comic book for their kids or for themselves. And in general I can't imagine it improving the story in any way. If anything we need more representation not less, in order to make such edits completely unnecessary in the future.

The "Oh, God" bit above was already explained above and yes it's more of a common expression than anything only religious people would say.

Adding dialog to a speechless episode is also an interesting choice which I'm actually interested to see if it works or not. One of my favorite comics this year was Step by Bloody Step by Si Spurrier and Matias Bergara which also doesn't have any dialog or text in it and I love seeing such experiments that show the power of the medium to convey a good story even without a single word.

In the end I still hope that the success of the campaign would encourage them to release more and bring in new readers to the original, and of course that they'll keep their profit sharing promise and hopefully take your feedback into consideration for future releases.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Hey, thank you very much for your very positive feedback and for purchasing the book! It's good to read the quality is here 👍

link Nikola Raykov   - Reply

As the Bulgarian publisher I felt the need to make some clarifications on the decisions I have made.

1. On the most controversial subject: the lesbian kiss
First let me clarify that we do not have different words in Bulgarian for a "friend" and a "girlfriend", both are "приятелка". The two girls might still be intimate friends, we just don't get to see the actual kiss. The reason for this is very simple. This panel would have caused a scandal in Bulgaria, the whole comics would have been labeled LGBT propaganda (especially considering the fact that there are no male heroes in it at all). Our audience as a publisher includes very small kids. It would have been a huge problem for something that is actually a very small detail and does not have any relevance to the main story.

As an author myself I completely understand David's opinion. I would have been irritated if somebody made a similar change in my works, but I just don't think the hate and the labeling of the whole comics is worth it for something that is so insignificant. If it was important for the main story or the message of the work (like in V for Vendetta for example) it would have been very different story.

2. On the "Oh God..."
This was already explained above, so no need to go into details, a lot of atheists would use this as an expression, but if I knew this will irritated David, I would have used different wording.

3. On the removal of the episodes
Episodes were not removed. It was rather a selection of the other episodes that left some of the others out. We are a very small publishing house and we do only 2 projects per year. I wanted to be able to tell the whole story of Pepper and Carrot (up to this point), but anything above 2 books of 100 pages would have been an overkill trying to publish and sell it. So we picked up all the episodes that are related to the main stories and left out the single ones (such as summer special, Christmas special, etc.). I would love to publish them at some point in the future if the comics are well accepted by the audience (I would also love to include some of wiki info and David's conceptual art).

4. On the silent episode
After all the single episodes were left out, this turned out to be the only silent one. It looked extremely strange as if in the middle of the story all characters just lost their ability to speak. My goal through the whole time was to try to create a consistent story. This is also the reason why Episode 19 was moved right after Episode 12 (don't know if David has not noticed this change or he likes it as it makes sense).

I have an utter respect for David's work and all the decisions I have made as a publisher were with absolutely the best intents.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Hi Nikola,
Thank you very much for taking the time to answer on the blog, and again thanks for your huge work on this derivation.
Yes, I think the (2) "Oh God..." was clarified and I totally understand it, I'm not offended or irritated at all by it now I understand the context of usage. I also understand the removal of the one-shot episodes (3) so the series can fit your format. About the silent episode with speech bubbles (4), thanks for underlining that it was the only silent episode left and you made the change so the episode blends better with others in the book. And finally about (1) thank you for confirming that "this panel would have caused a scandal in Bulgaria". I understand that you wanted to avoid the attack of being labeled LGBT propaganda and this is something I had in mind when I wrote this blog post. Thanks again for your nice words about the respect of Pepper&Carrot and your best intentions. I'll add an update in the blog post for future readers about the topics in question and invite them to read the comments for clarification.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Edit of the blog post is done :-)

link archeronaute   - Reply

Glad to see that this was a respectful derivation despite all the changes. But it's still sad that they had to remove the kiss. I understand that they wanted to avoid any backlash, I just find this kind of scandal ridiculous.

Also, there is a typo in "The cool side" third paragraph:
"The published [publisher?] told me it is promised to be print on high quality paper and hardcover."
Might not be worth editing the blog post though.

link David REVOY Author, - Reply

Thanks for the feedback! (and for the typo too, I'll fix it now.)

link Stemy   - Reply

Ouais, c'est triste, mais malheureusement prévisible quand du contenu est publié dans des pays qu'on qualifiera euphémiquement de "pas très ouverts d'esprit".

link Wikipe-fan   - Reply

I'm impressed by the civility of the debate here. Most of the questions debated are about observable effects, so they can be empirically studied. For those interested in the research on homosexuality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Hooker (a pioneering researcher)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_parenting#Research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_homosexuality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Sexual_orientation_and_evolution

Should I maybe point out that the homosexual kiss was consensual, while the heterosexual ones had severely impaired consent? Granted that France has some norms around kissing that are not much like those of most English-speaking countries. Not to mention the fact that East Asian cultures tend to consider age to be higher-status than youth...

The missing panel could be sold as a paste-in sticker from this website. I would not be surprised if it sold more copies than the book.

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