Transmitting Everything You Say

Transcript:

A comic in four panels:

Panel 1: In the dusty maintenance room of the Magic University, the Gothic Sorceress carefully disassembles her robot parrot on a workbench. She has removed the outer casing to expose the inner circuitry, and steampunk-like machinery is visible in the background. She wears large steampunk glasses on her head and an apron.

Gothic Sorceress: So, what's inside the Avian Intelligence?
AI Parrot: I don't think it's a good idea to take me apart.

Panel 2: The Gothic Sorceress holds a device that is still connected by a wire to the AI Parrot. A colorful magic gem in the center part of this device emits a thin reddish magic beam that extends outside the panel.

Gothic Sorceress: What's this? Some kind of communication device?
AI Parrot: Yes, I'm linked to something... ...bigger.

Panel 3: The Gothic Sorceress looks at the AI Parrot suspiciously.

Gothic Sorceress: Wait, are you transmitting everything I say?
AI Parrot: Yes.

Panel 4: The Gothic Sorceress is shocked and blushing as she realizes that everything she said wasn't private. The AI Parrot has happy eyes.

Gothic Sorceress: "Even our naughty chat yesterday during my bath?"
AI Parrot: Yes, high-quality data.

Source: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/035.html


76 comments

link Kelvin n0mql EN35ld   - Reply
kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social


This is fantastic.

link Eragon   - Reply
eragon@pl.eragon.re

what did she say?! We want to know

link Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: 🔜FOSDEM   - Reply
lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me

@eragon Kind of feel like it's best left to the imagination, for better and worse ^^

link Michael ☕️   - Reply
mcpinson@mas.to

@eragon
*high-quality* data

Wink wink, nudge nudge

link We Must Dissent   - Reply
MxSpoon@tech.lgbt

@mcpinson
Is that what kids are calling it these days?
@eragon

link Michael ☕️   - Reply
mcpinson@mas.to

@MxSpoon @eragon
*ahem*, well...

Its more of a 1969 thing.

link andre   - Reply
andre@fedi.jaenis.ch

curious of whether you're going to fold in the Amphora of Great Intelligence next 🤭

Perhaps with some monkeys¹ that transcribe everything on the receiving end?

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_monkey first item

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@andre For something monkey related, I definitely wants to cover the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite at one point.

And for this episode, you guessed right: introducing here the server/data-center idea is for moving the quest to the Amphora of Great Intelligence. 👍

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link andre   - Reply
andre@fedi.jaenis.ch

The infinite time is provider via one of those worlds, right?

https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/029__Avian-Intelligence.html

link Tina   - Reply
lazy@fedi.at

Wait ... Pepper having a naughty chat with AI? What's happening?

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link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@lazy Hey Tina, don't worry; she is not Pepper, she is the Gothic Sorceress of my mini series about Avian Intelligence. I like to call her "Cepper" (for "Cepper&Parrot" 😅).

peppercarrot.com/en/webcomics/

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link Laura "Tegan" Gjovaag ⛈ 🐸   - Reply
realtegan@wandering.shop

@lazy
She's rapidly become one of my favorites.

link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

@lazy Being somewhat of a new follower, I'm not certain... but I don't think this is Pepper. Pretty sure her hair is brown and she's got more of a whimsical bearing.

Plus Carrot probably would have chewed it to pieces by now.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@solitha Welcome around! Yes, it's another character, a gothic sorceress, more adult (probably over 300 years old, a parody of The Witcher's Yennefer in a way), resident at a university of Magic. This mini series about AI has its own tag here: peppercarrot.com/en/webcomics/

I'm continuing Pepper&Carrot in background, I'm right now finalizing the dialog for episode 40 scenario. If the production continues to progress around this script, it will be an adventure with Shichimi and Torreya.

@lazy

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link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

Yep, I checked your site and clicked through the various tags before gathering the courage to act like I knew anything about it 🤣

@lazy

link Dr. Sobek   - Reply
Sobex@sciences.re

@solitha @lazy She's a student, though, given how she was introduced. Isn't 300 year old a bit old for a witch student ?

link Random Damage 🌻   - Reply
RandomDamage@infosec.exchange

@Sobex @solitha @lazy what good would witching be without gradual students?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@RandomDamage @Sobex In my vision, I wanted to make her more like a resident or researcher at the University of Magic, a role where she could study, teach, access the library, speak directly to the headmaster, and get invited to the New Year party, etc... But it's hard to build a more complete lore with just 4 panels at a time.

@solitha @lazy

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link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

Maybe if you asked AI to help you with your storylines...

*ducks and runs*

@RandomDamage @Sobex @lazy

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@solitha 🤣 🤣

Note: I tried out of curiosity and research via a local install of flathub.org/en/apps/com.jeffse and it was really bad: 'open source' AI LLMs model I tried can't make a punchline, or an ending twist. Every story they output can't surprise the audience: they are statistically tropes, story slop, and the ending is always super cringe. But this test was super educational about CPU usage: super slow despite having a powerful computer. Uninstalled.

@RandomDamage @Sobex @lazy

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link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

"statistically" is probably the operative word there, since that's more or less what they are... statistical word generators.

They'll never twist or surprise because they're going for the most likely output from the millions of artists they've been fed (and increasingly, re-ingesting slop).

(Edit: I probably didn't need to say all that, did I? Derp.)

Gotta say the Avian Intelligence mini has been spot-on and a delight.

@RandomDamage @Sobex @lazy

link Random Damage 🌻   - Reply
RandomDamage@infosec.exchange

@Sobex @solitha @lazy of course! I'm sure if you follow this thread long enough everything will come out.

It's been really fun so far

link Dr. Sobek   - Reply
Sobex@sciences.re

@RandomDamage @solitha @lazy

**Canon Updated !**

link Dr. Sobek   - Reply
Sobex@sciences.re

@RandomDamage @solitha @lazy

Though, re-checking all the story, the goth witch looks too young for a post-doc, and also her relation to the info provided by the parrot is really what you might expect from a bachelor or master student, but not someone with a PhD under her belt. A fortiori a permanent researcher would have the ability to check a good chunk of the parrot nonsense, and avoid incinerating herself.

So my personal take, given what we have now could be a witch at the beginning of her PhD, or in her Master's (since she's getting a bit more assertive). A PhD student is a lot closer to faculties and could well be invited for the new year party she's in.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Sobex For sure, having her in her late years of study could be an advantage if I decide to show other students, and their relation with their Avian Intelligence later. So, I'm not closing this door. I'll see, writing is difficult, and sometime I have to take direction for a good 4 panels and... the lore will follow later :) Thank you for the feedback!

@RandomDamage @solitha @lazy

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link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

@Sobex Okay, I really have to ask.

She "looks too young for a post-doc"? How many 300-year-olds do you know and how do they typically compare in appearance to post-docs?

@RandomDamage @lazy

link Dr. Sobek   - Reply
Sobex@sciences.re

@solitha @RandomDamage @lazy Well fair, there’s a question of how long do wizard and witch live and how do they age.

I’m relating with human aging. (And Ars Magica wizard âgé slower than their peers starting around 30, but they do get to the 35 apparent age usually, and don’t usually live more than 250 (to be compared with the 50-60 reached by non wizards))

link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

@Sobex David did mention a sort of parody of Yennefer, who chose to look much younger than she was.

In this case, "alive" appears much younger than human aging at 300 years, so appearances are not a great metric.

Edit: E34, we know glamours exist.

@RandomDamage @lazy

link Solitha   - Reply
solitha@mastodon.social

@Sobex She took a gap year.

Maybe more than one. Okay, maybe a lot. 😀

@lazy

link Damien Goutte-Gattat   - Reply
dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org

@Sobex @lazy @solitha Maybe she’s a postdoctoral fellow – desperately going from one postdoc position to another because there’s almost no permanent positions anymore.

(Any similarity with the current academic landscape would be of course purely coincidental.)

link dereisenhofer   - Reply
dereisenhofer@metalhead.club

It's a whole saga! 🤩

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@dereisenhofer Yes, it looks like I'm inspired to continue the weekly comics stories around this two characters. The AI industry pissed me off with the training of 20 years of my artwork without my consent and many other reason, and I find therapeutic to write these little stories to cope with that. 🤣

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link dereisenhofer   - Reply
dereisenhofer@metalhead.club

This comic is perfect to present the problems with LLMs. And the parrot already is my favourite picture to explain LLMs. Like, would we say a parrot is intelligent because it learned to say "Who's there" if someone said "knock knock"?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@dereisenhofer Thank you! But I have no merit for that analogy: the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochast paper from Emily M. Bender & co was really the starting point. I met the concept after brainstorming with Framasoft for a mechanical Parrot mascot illustration on one of their campaign peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/fra . Later, I felt the idea of a cyber AI Parrot character would be a powerful concept and character, like in books of some of my favorite authors ( A. Douglas , T. Pratchett ). And here we are ☺️ .

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link Freyja (Freja) Goddess of love and beauty   - Reply
freyja@matrix.rocks

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org High Quality PII data ​:flan_book:​ ​:flan_book:​ ​:flan_book:​ You sure know how to sell the trust, let's hope people starts to understand and accepts the trust of the price for the "free" services

link Voxel   - Reply
voxel@infosec.space

She is Avian Intelligence enemy number one now, after what she said at the end of last year 🫡

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link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@voxel Hehe, yes. I needed to find a sort of 'bridge' in my scenario to let her explore the world of data center later, and connect this series to the large Amphora of Intelligence ( peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantas ). This episode is an attempt to motivate her to find the 'server'.

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link Sebastian Crane   - Reply
seabass@social.seabass.systems

@voxel I just love the 'facial expressions' on the Amphora of Intelligence 😄

link Tired Bunny :comf:   - Reply
tiredbun@akko.wtf

@voxel

I am kinda wondering if she will keep the "dumbed down" parrot after whatever the ending to the avian intelligence story arc will be.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@tiredbun @voxel I hope I'll can draw enough episodes in this mini series to explore many issues (addiction/psychosis/and more) on user side and be able to land a conclusion aligned with something that was really well expressed on this toot: lgbtqia.space/@alice/115845072 , something nuanced.
I hope by the end, the Gothic Sorceress will have a responsible usage of it, and maybe her own 'local' one. Maybe even themed like a crow. I'll see, so many things to draw to reach this point! I'm working on it.

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link Linebyline   - Reply
Linebyline@mastoart.social

@tiredbun @voxel I've seen enough blatantly wrong LLM-generated alt text and spell check results that I don't think the technology is fit for purpose. Any purpose. AI "hallucination" is not a solvable problem: It's the exact thing LLMs are designed to do. So, with all due respect to the person being quoted here, I don't trust anyone who would entrust something as important as accessibility to AI.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Linebyline I totally agree, this is a good point.
For sure, I think LLM-generated alt text should only be used as, eg. , a quick placeholder text to fill up an editing text-area, requiring a human to post-fix it. I strongly wish the output of any LLM should never go into public or production unsupervised. A human should always be required in the last chain of the process with a strong expertise on the task to critic, rewrite, adapt and make it better.

@tiredbun @voxel

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link Elzen   - Reply
elzen@fadrienn.irlnc.org

Something bigger ? Does it mean a giant amphora full of books ? 🤔

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@elzen Yes! Well guessed: this episode is my 'bridge' to link back the Amphora as the data-center/server of the Avian Intelligence. A future opportunity to speak about shortage of device, price hiking, and ecology.

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link mohs   - Reply
mohs@climatejustice.social

@elzen now I imagine the Avian Intelligence as a drunken bird, as it is fed with the "distilled" liquid extracted from the AGI.

link Jimmy   - Reply
sjcooke66@mastodon.social

💥

link Dr. Sobek   - Reply
Sobex@sciences.re

Wait, wait, what was the naughty chat ? Also, how could you trust this parrot with naughty chat in the bath ?

link hairylarry   - Reply
hairylarry@gamerplus.org

It is, of course, illegal to reverse engineer avian intelligence.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@hairylarry Yes, totally. And especially in the context of this comic. Clearly a violation of the Avian Intelligence "content and usage policy". I'll see how I can exploit this later, and maybe introduce the OpenMagic company.

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link 🪨   - Reply
Varpie@peculiar.florist

@hairylarry Ah yes, OpenMagic and their Grimoire of Probable Truths, the base model of their ChatGPT

link Oblomov   - Reply
oblomov@sociale.network

ESPECIALLY the naughty chat 8-P

link Toon Link :verified:   - Reply
ToonLink@fandom.ink

OH NO, the worst nightmare.

And now some village somewhere is feeding the amphora that will keep her words forever.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@ToonLink 🤣 🤣

link Jak2k 🏳️‍🌈   - Reply
jak2k@mastodontech.de

It probably has a camera too… Let's hope for her, it's not the AI by grand evil wizard Elron Murks!

link LonM   - Reply
LonM@vivaldi.net

She needs to conjure up a magic firewall. preferably made of hellfire

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@LonM Oh! Firewall. 🧡 🔥 I'll note it somewhere. Thanks!

"IgnisMurus !" 😆

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link Lina   - Reply
kashamannaya@tristagram.pictures

😭😅

link Andrew Kelley   - Reply
andrewrk@mastodon.social

dang she's cute

link El Dado Inquieto   - Reply
eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es

Oh... Wait a minute... The &&##!!!! Amphora! 🤣

link TrimTab 🇺🇦   - Reply
TrimTab@mastodon.social


Is Pepper getting..... Spicy? 😉

I'm quite worried though... Who's been listening and how will they torment Pepper with the knowledge they've stolen? 😬

link VANTABlack   - Reply
VANTABlack2000@mastodon.gamedev.place

Great Comic as usual. A great way to get people thinking about what AI does as well.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@VANTABlack2000 Thank you!

link Rianq   - Reply
Rianq@pnpde.social

You're comics are lovely, thank you!

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Rianq Thank you for the feedback

link mkj   - Reply
mkj@social.mkj.earth

"I contain no data source-serviceable parts"?

#miniFantasyTheater #AvianIntelligence

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link Gorgeous na Shock!   - Reply
indigoparadox@mastodon.social

😳 High-quality data! 😳

link Frank Hightower 🐁   - Reply
FrankHghTwr@meow.social

"waiiit a minute, are you telling the truth now?"

"Yes"

"What about yesterday?"

"Reply hazy, try again"

"Wait, what?"

"Iv'e been bewitched to be honest about my transmission capabilites, but not about anything else"

link Salt   - Reply
salt27@mastodon.social

Privacy is dead?!Nooo, surely just prankster.

link morph   - Reply
morph@morphnet.de

😄

link Stemy   - Reply
Stem

Maintenant, tout le monde veut connaître le contenu de la discussion salace.😆

link JD   - Reply
JDGeoShack@vivaldi.net

CINEMA! 😆 Thanks for the laughs.

link Tony Fisk   - Reply
arfisk@aus.social


Never mind the bathroom chats, * this young disruptor needs a name.

* to quote from Milne: "God bless Mummy. I know that's right.
Wasn't it fun in the bath to-night?
The cold's so cold, and the hot's so hot.
Oh! God bless Daddy - I quite forgot."

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@arfisk 🤣 I like to call her Cepper (for the Cepper&Parrot pun).

link LucKey Productions   - Reply
LucKeyProductions@c.im


That bird's been collecting knowledge without her knowledge?!
Scientia potentia est luckey.games/cyans/anti/quickc
It all makes sense now.

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link MrBelles   - Reply
MrBelles@mastodon.social

Oh my, what will the frog think?! Was he there as well?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@MrBelles Haha, maybe the frog prince was on this bath, who knows 😆


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