The Amphora of Great Intelligence (AGI) Part 2

Transcript:

A comic strip in four panels:

Panel 1. A bird's-eye view of the top of the Amphora of Great Intelligence, a wizard in yellow colors is on the stack of books from the content of the amphora. He yell at a crowd of wizard at the bottom of the Amphora, a crowd of red wizard. Some other wizard in red evacuate some grimoires, their arms are full of books. On the top, you can see an onion (for The Onion) and a cover that looks like the Reddit mascot:

Wizard in yellow: Alright, I've cleared out a few grimoires to tweak it, we should get better results now!

Panel 2. A view of the wizards at the foot of the Amphora, the fire is intense, they all raise their arms in incantation:

Crowd of wizards: Amphora of Great Intelligence, our world is dying, share your knowledge with us!

Panel 3. The Amphora of Intelligence starts speaking, this time very seriously. The mages are still speechless.

Amphora: Stop chasing profits blindly, reduce your reliance on fossil fuels, and prioritize repair and recycling over production.
Crowd of wizards: ... ... ...

Panel 4. A discontented red wizard yells at the wizard in yellow who tweaked the content of the Amphora in panel one. This one feels surprised:

Wizard in red: I don't like this. Let's adjust it again.

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51 comments

link Jellyfriend :jellybin:   - Reply
jellyfriend@plush.city

god i still uniuronically love The Amphora of Great Intelligence, why did you have to make them SO ROUND. what a BEAN.

link babble encat   - Reply
babble_endanger@freeradical.zone

how I feel every time I hear "computers should run things"

link Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC   - Reply
LordCaramac@discordian.social

@babble_endanger We know exactly what needs to be done. We have known for decades. We're not doing what needs to be done because that would mean ending Capitalism and changing the entire trajectory of modern civilisation.

link Moni   - Reply
monilenyan@mastodon.social

@LordCaramac @babble_endanger So *why* are we not doing it, really? 😁

link Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC   - Reply
LordCaramac@discordian.social

@monilenyan @babble_endanger Because the people in power would lose their power if we did. And all the people living comfortable lives within the existing system would have to change everything, they would lose all their routines and habits, and nobody wants that.

link babble encat   - Reply
babble_endanger@freeradical.zone

@monilenyan @LordCaramac and importantly, what would it take to get what we want?

Informal power like boycotts and mutual aid help. Petitioning elected officials who listen to their constituents helps. Running for office helps. Supporting good candidates helps. Protests and rallies and handing out information helps. Joining organizations helps.

I can't say what helps the most, but everything helps some.

link オチュー (stop colonialism 🇵🇸)   - Reply
otyugh@pouet.chapril.org

Yeah I mean obviously re-use and forbidding the construction of non-durable products would be better than recycling which is wasteful in energy and in materials. Recycling is the propaganda used as diversion to keep producing more trash "it's not a problem because RECYCLING".

No recycling is 100% and most recycling is about producing sub-par material not-that-useful stuff which the society would pay... When it's the producer who should pay for the trash they produce.

link Jon [🇺🇦,🏳️‍🌈]   - Reply
jon_giraffe@mastodon.social

@otyugh Yes, but not all forms of recycling are bad. Plastic for sure is bad. Recycling glass, solar panels, metal, etc is good.

link オチュー (stop colonialism 🇵🇸)   - Reply
otyugh@pouet.chapril.org

@jon_giraffe It's very energy intensive. Like glass (I'm working with recently), most company in france recycle their bottles when even small farms I'm working in are managing to just wash them (pretty far away because there isn't any local company offering it : but it exists, and it lmakes WAY MORE sense. Bottle should be used hundreds of time before being melt again it's kinda outrageous what we do because energy is cheap enough to remake them AT EVERY SINGLE USE).

link Badtux the Snarky Penguin   - Reply
badtux@mastodon.social

@otyugh @jon_giraffe When I was very young in the late 1960s our elementary school class took a field trip to the local Coca Cola bottling company. There we saw the glass bottles come in and be placed upside down on a conveyer belt that had little sticks with nozzles on them, they then went through a dishwasher then the nozzles cleaned the interiors. They were then flipped, filled, and capped. Far different from today's disposable bottles that didn't exist then.

link オチュー (stop colonialism 🇵🇸)   - Reply
otyugh@pouet.chapril.org

@badtux @jon_giraffe I think recycling was mostly lost in the mainstream because glass get marked with time (especially passing through conveyors) that makes the packaging "not perfectly pristine". You can see that on a few rare consigned brands.

link Badtux the Snarky Penguin   - Reply
badtux@mastodon.social

@otyugh @jon_giraffe The glass Coke bottles became somewhat frosted over time. After being reused many times to the point where they were essentially opaque they were sent to the glass company to melt down and used to manufacture new bottles. All gone now of course replaced with single use plastic bottles or aluminum cans.

link Momo   - Reply
momo@social.linux.pizza


...so true...

link mkj   - Reply
mkj@social.mkj.earth

Thank you for sharing these!

Small nit: the alt text for panel four doesn't quite match the image.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@mkj Thank you for checking and reporting! I forgot I edited the speechbubble after writing the script for something shorter and more efficient!
Fixed in framagit.org/peppercarrot/webc

(but I'll probably not edit the post, it would renotify everyone who already interacted with it for a minor change that I couldn't explain unless adding a long "edit: fixed a typo in the alt").

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link mkj   - Reply
mkj@social.mkj.earth

No worries, it's definitely close enough to get the gist across! 🙂

link Ohtar Celebrin   - Reply
OhtarCelebrin@ludosphere.fr

L'amphore propose la suite de mots la plus probable sans en comprendre le sens.
Elle ne peut évidemment encore moins juger de sa pertinence.

Et même cette solution, par essence médiocre, ne conviendra aux technnomages.

Très cohérent comme bd, j'aime beaucoup !

link El Dado Inquieto   - Reply
eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es

As good (bad) as real life.

link Jargoggles   - Reply
jargoggles@kolektiva.social


PULL OUT THE WOKE TOMES, FEED IT MORE BIASED GRIMOIRES, THEN POUR THE SLUDGE THAT COMES OUT BACK INTO IT

link Jargoggles   - Reply
jargoggles@kolektiva.social


PULL OUT THE WOKE TOMES, FEED IT MORE BIASED GRIMOIRES, THEN POUR THE SLUDGE THAT COMES OUT BACK INTO IT

link Panta Rhei   - Reply
pantaRhei@freiburg.social

🎯

link root   - Reply
aedjmis@ioc.exchange

it looks amazing, especially on the last two panels - I hate the very concept of AGI, but I love the Amphora! ❤️

link Toon Link :verified:   - Reply
ToonLink@fandom.ink

HAHAHA yuuup!

link Internet Rando   - Reply
mousey@seattlematrix.org

I didn't think the first part could even be followed! Bravo!

link Ben   - Reply
benfuddled@hachyderm.io

This panel makes me wonder, are there any good books/games/worlds that combine industrial society with magic?

Like you still have spells and wands and wizards and starry hats, but the way all of that stuff is powered is by the same ways that we power technology. Fossil fuels, factories belching black smoke, high wizards unconcerned about the pollution their magical experiments create? Maybe some hippie/anarchist wizards that everyone looks down at for saying they need to go back to communing with nature and drawing their powers from that?

link Laureano   - Reply
larssiddasil@mastodon.social

That sounds familiar.

link spooky brib   - Reply
sitcom_nemesis@tech.lgbt

Looking forward to see how they adjust it for Part 3 😃

link Arapalla   - Reply
Arapalla@aus.social

No. The answer is 42. I've thought about it quite carefully. Perhaps if you knew what the question was.

link Isabelle Moon   - Reply
Isabellemoon@mastodon.social

link Justeaze Lizrich   - Reply
matousakura35@urusai.social

I like how cute the pot is lol :cute:

link Carl C   - Reply
raven@fedi.raventhemaker.com

The wizards are already into late-stage capitalism, I see.

link luca0N!   - Reply
luca0N@social.luca0n.com

At a first glance, I thought the wizards were dumping piles of cash. Ironically, perhaps that would still keep the comic accurate 🤔

link TeaandInk   - Reply
TeaandInk@infosec.exchange

I love that little detail of one of the grimoires pulled out being reddit, lol

link Cyber Yuki   - Reply
yuki2501@masto.hackers.town

@TeaandInk And the leaf one is 4chan! 😆 I hadn't even noticed!

Edit: Or an onion, perhaps? 🤔

link TeaandInk   - Reply
TeaandInk@infosec.exchange

@yuki2501 Nice, I was trying to figure out what that was!

link Cyber Yuki   - Reply
yuki2501@masto.hackers.town

@TeaandInk wait, It might be an onion.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@yuki2501 @TeaandInk I confirm this an attempt at painting a quick logo of The Onion, in reference to this article theonion.com/geologists-recomm , responsible for the famous answer of Google about eating rocks (that was reused 1:1 in the part 1)

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link Tim N   - Reply
timnolli@convo.casa

can't you post these as four separate images? I think this would make for a better reading/viewing experience, at least for me.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@timnolli Thank you for the feedback, but I don't think there is any guarantee of image sorting on the various Fediverse clients. Also, thumbnails of pictures are in 16:9 by default on Mastodon, not adapted for this format.

My current format is supposed to be able to be read without a zoom/click/interaction on the post. This episode probably has a too high density of details that breaks this rules (eg. compare to ep.16, "Cookie") and forced you to zoom.
Sorry for the discomfort of reading.

link Tim N   - Reply
timnolli@convo.casa

thank you for the elaborate response. But I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding. I have no problem with zooming in general. The problem is, I have good peripheral vision and am kind of trained to take in my surroundings in an instant (which may not be quite normal ...), so being presented the whole story at once can ruin the punchline for me.
That's why I actually intentionally directly zoom in and then pan in Z order, to enjoy the story in sequence. But that's kind of annoying - I would rather just swipe.
But the thing with the non-guaranteed order and 16:9 thumbnails is of course bad.
For the record, I use the Mastodon app Tusky on a 6 inch phone.

link Tim N   - Reply
timnolli@convo.casa

TLDR I don't zoom for detail, I zoom for "encapsulation".

link Thanasis Kinias   - Reply
tkinias@historians.social


the ✨ is a nice touch!

link Tristan Nitot✓   - Reply
nitot

I Love it! I think @timparrique should totally see this!

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link Cyber Yuki   - Reply
yuki2501@masto.hackers.town

This is genius 🤣

The AI analogy was exactly on point.

link Sindastra :autism: :butterflyLesbian: 🌈🍀   - Reply
sin@misskey.sindastra.net

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Can you please explain the last panel? I understand that people in general don't like to hear facts that are inconvenient, but I was wondering if this was in reference to anything specific?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@sin The wizards in this comic strip are an allegory for the large companies that own significant AI models (LLMs).

This comic strip illustrates that, even if an LLM's response to a prompt is correct, it may be rejected if it does not align with the company's political views.

In fact, reports suggest that LLMs are increasingly being tweaked to be 'less woke' and more politically aligned with the alt-right, in order to comply with those in power.

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link Sindastra :autism: :butterflyLesbian: 🌈🍀   - Reply
sin@misskey.sindastra.net

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thank you! 🩷

link Celeste Ryder 🐾 🐀🏳️‍🌈   - Reply
bougiewonderland@freeradical.zone

@altbot

link Marc Véron   - Reply
mveron@tooting.ch

Great, and I would like to see more of the Amphora of Great Intelligence! Reminds me to Golem XIV by Stanisław Lem where a military AI turns out to be pacifistic.
We (Pidi & Norf) made use of Lem's idea in our Siebenspiel-Comic in German language "Der Turm zu Kibel" (The Tower of AI-bel).
siebenspiel.ch/?Die_Abenteuer_
#KI #AI #Comic #Siebenspiel


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