How my Firefox became a LibreWolf

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After using their browser for over 20 years, it's painful to admit, but I've grown tired of Mozilla. The recent debacle around their TOS update, their departure from the Fediverse, and their apparent embrace of AI bro culture and corporate marketing have made my Firefox icon feel increasingly out of place on my GNU/Linux OS.

I decided to search for alternatives, but unfortunately, there aren't many options available. You're mostly limited to Chrome derivatives or Firefox derivatives. However, I stumbled upon LibreWolf, a fork of Firefox that caught my attention. LibreWolf is described as "A custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom" which resonates with me.

Installing LibreWolf on my Debian was surprisingly simple, and migrating my profile was as easy as copying the contents of my ~/.mozilla/firefox preferences into the active profile of ~/.librewolf. It felt like home, as it's essentially Firefox.

However, I encountered an issue while configuring it to my liking, and after struggling for more than 1 hour, I was on the verge of giving up. Fortunately, I found a solution to my DRM issue thanks to the help of Cherryband in the Pepper&Carrot chat room.

One thing to keep in mind if you're considering trying LibreWolf is that it has all security and privacy options enabled by default, which may not be the most user-friendly experience. You won't be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you'll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you're willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.

So far, the experience has been educational, and I'll see if I decide to stick with LibreWolf in the long term.

Comic source here

Update 2025 May 5:
After a series of significant papercuts with Librewolf that affected many parts of my web browsing experience and administrative paperwork, I decided to switch back to Firefox. I tried really hard to make it work, spending extra hours trying to figure out what part of my librewolf.overrides.cfg was not surviving updates, but I couldn't find it.

In the end, I had to choose between investing my time in tweaking a web browser or doing more drawing. Still, I am happy with the two months of using LibreWolf, it has been very educational about the various privacy options the main Firefox has. I'm now back to Firefox with more knowledge in this area.


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link Erik Uden 🍑   - Reply
ErikUden@mastodon.de

yippiee

link ElectroFetish   - Reply
ElectroFetish@mastodon.social

cute and sad

link batiste carpinetty 🏳️‍⚧️ 🍉   - Reply
batistecarpinetty@mastodon.art

« Installing #LibreWolf on my Debian was surprisingly simple » Coucou 👋 Tu aurais un conseil pour jouir de cette facilité ? Je suis sur Ubuntu et je galère comme pas possible pour l'installer 😭

link NicoLagaffe   - Reply
nicolagaffe

@batistecarpinetty
Je te conseillerais de passer par flatpak/Flathub.
flathub.org/setup/Ubuntu
flathub.org/apps/io.gitlab.lib

link Tetra   - Reply
tetora_san@piaille.fr

@nicolagaffe @batistecarpinetty Juste une limitation que j'ai vue avec l'installation flatpak, c'était si tu utilises une yubikey pour du 2FA, le fait que l'environnement soit dans une sandboxe empêche de reconnaitre la clef.
Hormis ce cas précis, cela fonctionne très bien.

link NicoLagaffe   - Reply
nicolagaffe

@tetora_san @batistecarpinetty
Oui tout a fait.
J'utilise parfois KeepassXC et le plugin ne peut communiquer avec l'application. C'est effectivement une restriction des applis sandboxées.

link batiste carpinetty 🏳️‍⚧️ 🍉   - Reply
batistecarpinetty@mastodon.art

@nicolagaffe Merci, je vais essayer par là : celui que j'ai téléchargéi via le site de #librewolf ne voulait pas s'installer 😶

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@batistecarpinetty @nicolagaffe J'éspère que l’installation sera facile sous Ubuntu. Ici aucune idée de comment ça se passe sous les système 'buntu-based. Pour moi sous Debian 12 KDE avec la doc c'était vraiment trois lignes de commandes à copier/coller et c'était fait.

Pour comparaison: déloger le Firefox-ESR de Debian stable et le remplacer par la repo officielle de Firefox au moment de mon install avait été un processus plus complex.

link gargle   - Reply
gargle@floss.social

@batistecarpinetty librewolf.net/installation/deb a marché pour moi, mais je suis debian, pas ubuntu:

sudo apt update && sudo apt install extrepo -y
sudo extrepo enable librewolf
sudo apt update && sudo apt install librewolf -y

link batiste carpinetty 🏳️‍⚧️ 🍉   - Reply
batistecarpinetty@mastodon.art

@gargle Bonjour 👋🏾 Je viens de réussir sur un autre ordi avec Linux Mint, sans problème. Ubuntu, je ne comprends pas tout 😒

link Zoidberg For President   - Reply
ZoidbergForPresident@kolektiva.social

Nice! :D

link twilight   - Reply
confusomu@twoot.site

yes, LibreWolf is a great fork of Firefox. I also use it (and I haven't used the “main” version of Firefox in a long time now), and it took a little configuring before being usable the way I wanted.

Its strong privacy defaults remind me somewhat of Firefox Focus on mobile devices.

link Saphkey 🕊️   - Reply
saphkey@equestria.social

@confusomu If LibreWolf is stripped of Mozilla services like Firefox Sync
how do you sync stuff between your different devices? Extensions, bookmarks etc.

link twilight   - Reply
confusomu@twoot.site

@saphkey you can re-enable Firefox Sync in the preferences

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@confusomu @saphkey Yes, it took me time configuring it too. And I wiped more than three time the ~/.librewolf pref directory to start anew and be sure to reactive things I need only. It's very educative to all the many comfort I need that can compromise privacy/security of browsing website these days. Very, very educative.

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link Pointlessgiraffe   - Reply
rony4102@programming.dev

I am going to ladybird it bro

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@rony4102 Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.

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link sarah tonin 🐺   - Reply
SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

@rony4102 isn't ladybird's main dev crazy about pronouns and wokism or smth?

tbh im more interested in servo

link AlexTECPlayz   - Reply
alextecplayz@techhub.social

@SRAZKVT @rony4102 And of course, Lunduke made a post about it, Ladybird getting attacked by "unhinged, dishonest activists"

lunduke.locals.com/post/582366

Note that Lunduke's a horrible person, so this article of his is from a heavily biased anti-trans perspective, plus the article and his journal as a whole is from Rumble.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@alextecplayz @SRAZKVT @rony4102 Good to know! Also, in case you missed this yesterday: bsky.app/profile/ioi-xd.net/po (it makes me like LibreWolf even more 💜 love the ban reason 😆 )

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link Alex   - Reply
constancies@metalhead.club

@SRAZKVT wait fr? if so that completely destroys any interest i had in the project.

can you provide a source? now i'm like genuinely kind of worried (esp after futo, a ladybird patron, made a vid with lunduke 💀)

link Alex   - Reply
constancies@metalhead.club

@SRAZKVT nvm found it myself.

github.com/SerenityOS/serenity

archive.is/ZtQpj

it's a pretty bad look. i think i will ignore ladybird from now on.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@rony4102 You mean, the devs of Ladybird are crazy about pronouns things then...

link Simon Zerafa   - Reply
simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

@protonprivacy also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.

Is @mozillaofficial doing the same? 🫤🤷‍♂️

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial I'm not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it's not really noted in the bio this is their official new account.

Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozi )

Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( theintercept.com/2025/01/28/pr )

... both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.

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link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial I mean something as simple like text-to-speech or OCR or machine translation models (like Google Translate/DeepL) can be considered "AI" technically. I'm a student and many courses involving creating our own models from scratch and many of my projects involving use models like tesseract-ocr, turtle-tts, YOLO, LLaMA,... for some tasks and this is painful for me as many outputs don't even make sense and I had to tweak a lot.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial Though I noticed that despite the claims of AI bros that their models are better, or they can solve something, they rarely say exactly what model they use (or just algorithms or more simple models cloaking as "AI" for them).

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial So I think if Mozilla just say they are using machine translation (for their recent translation feature) or the devs' developing feature to add alt-text is using a image describing model (they literally fine-tuned a CLIP model) instead of saying "AI" in the way current AI bros do (Oh god even #Framework was paid by #AMD to say like this) and be more transparent of their investments they would have less backlash.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial Also note that compared to other models like text-to-speech, OCR, image description/classification, speech-to-text and multiple other models LLMs (like GPT models used in ChatGPT) and image generation models (like MidJourney) are much much larger than the former models and thus have a lot of environmental impact just for running them (this one people may know but I'm a CS student and know technical reasons).

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial For example, the base HuBERT model (which can be used for speech recognition, speech-to-text, emotion recognition,...) is only around 360-370 MB while even the smallest LLM (the one that similar to the models powering ChatGPT) is LLaMA 3 8B is around 16 GB.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial Even worse that unlike other companies and projects that build other types of models, generative AI models like LLM and image generation (usually stable diffusion models) models are often trying to improve their efficiency but making their models more complex and much much larger and large companies are pouring trillions of dollars in that, which helped create the AI bubble and worsening the environment issues.

link 🤯Matera the Mad🤯   - Reply
matera@mastodon.sdf.org


I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.

Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@matera Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉

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link 🤯Matera the Mad🤯   - Reply
matera@mastodon.sdf.org

LOL Yeah, I get too cute sometimes.

It's good to have a few different browsers for website testing. I have an assortment of different browser profiles too. I use dedicated profiles mostly to keep Gahoogle and Zuckland noses out of my business.

link N Toyohito / 縁 豊人   - Reply
ntoyohito@comicscamp.club


Welcome to the team ^^

link mray   - Reply
mray@social.tchncs.de

Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.

It is not always so easy:

video.1146.nohost.me/w/ij3qHTr

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@mray Thanks! Oh yes it's not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings.

Thanks for the video, I'm already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee.

He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It's not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc...I don't remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.

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link Sunshine (she/her)   - Reply
Sunshine@lemmy.ca

Gorgeous artwork friend!

link Mad Dog Ace Run   - Reply
BluesHarp@musicians.today


Vivaldi right now and it works great.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@BluesHarp But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software... This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.

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link cameronbosch :endeavourOS:   - Reply
cameronbosch@fosstodon.org

@BluesHarp Unfortunately, what fork of Chromium do you recommend then? Brave is a shady crypto project run by a less than nice person, Chrome & Edge I hope I don't have to explain, and Opera? I really hope I don't have to go any further.

Also, when Mozilla eventually goes, so does Librewolf, Waterfox, and the rest. There's no way that the Firefox forks will be able to pick up the pieces in time.

Unfortunately, I am stuck on Vivaldi because it has PWAs and isn't going to die.

link shironeko   - Reply
shironeko@fedi.tesaguri.club

@cameronbosch @BluesHarp I think people over estimate the importance of Mozilla and it's partly why we are here. the free world can maintain an browser or two on it's own no problem, using firefox/chromium as base is simply the path of least resistance.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@cameronbosch @BluesHarp Either plain Chromium maybe (though you may need to have some technical knowledge as some features are not there)

link gargle   - Reply
gargle@friendica.world

I migrated to LibreWolf today and am happy to see this!

link Eskuero   - Reply
eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws

Cute

link Adam Dalliance   - Reply
pre@boing.world

Yep, I switched on my main machine when Mozilla merged with an advertising company, which is to say the new combined entity is an advertising company.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@pre Right. I was badly surprised to see my Firefox homepage receiving an unsolicited "Temu" shortcut icon recently. Especially after that framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/1133 ... 😔

link Adam Dalliance   - Reply
pre@boing.world

😞

There aren't any good browsers 💔

link   - Reply
Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Is it worth running LibreWolf without fingerprinting disabled? It’s kind of a dealbreaker that it doesn’t save zoom options on websites. At least I could handle having to run another browser to use Netflix…

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Yingwu That's exactly where I found it educative to have to be personally facing this dilemma and having to choose.

Here I decided to allow fingerprinting, because mainly I really like when a blog or website switch to dark mode automatically. Without that, all website were in light theme, and it felt very difficult to me to browse the web like that now...

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Suiseiseki @Yingwu Thank you for the extension!

link LisPi   - Reply
lispi314@udongein.xyz

@Suiseiseki @Yingwu Not selecting it also gives a bit of fingerprinting, ultimately.

Preferably the way to fix this would be for the user agent to not provide the remote endpoint with a way to extract this data at all.

link LisPi   - Reply
lispi314@udongein.xyz

@Suiseiseki @Yingwu Well, that or a browser could decide to either grab all modal-gated remote resources or alternatively none of them per the user's command.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@Yingwu I mean LibreWolf recommends using CanvasBlocker in case of you turned off Resist Fingerprinting

link Unix Cæsar   - Reply
unixcaesar@fosstodon.org

I just switched to librewolf as well.

link jailandrade   - Reply
jailandrade@mastodon.social

@categulario

link categulario 🐍 🦀 🦎 🇵🇸   - Reply
categulario@mstdn.mx

@jailandrade my fire fox became a water one!

link   - Reply
LolaCat@lemmy.ca

Great art, so cute!

link Cosmic Cleric   - Reply
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world

From the blog post…

You won’t be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you’ll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you’re willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.

Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.

They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.

Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.

~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@CosmicCleric "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs"

😆 I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.

link Cosmic Cleric   - Reply
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world

😆 I don’t think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs.

I’ve never met a software developer yet who wouldn’t want their program to be popular and widely used.

Also, when it comes to browsers, the name of the game is to get support from the big websites, which is done by having major/popular usage of their browser.

~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

@CosmicCleric I mean I don't hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don't like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.

link Daniel Casanueva   - Reply
danielcasanueva@mstdn.social

That's very nice!

link   - Reply
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf

Didn’t knew this existed, thx!

link SuperDicq   - Reply
SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I now wonder what a GNU IceCat looks like.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Suiseiseki @SuperDicq 😍 Big potential for artwork this blue IceCat 💙

link SuperDicq   - Reply
SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo

@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I would expect a GNU IceCat to be some sort of combination of a cat and a gnu tho

link Airikr :sweden: :endeavour:   - Reply
edgren@mst-gts.airikr.me

Too bad the installation for Arch is through AUR. Takes FOREVER to install! Currently installing it now :blush:

link veroandi   - Reply
veroandi@mastodon.social

who is behind Librewolf?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@veroandi Have a look at their profile here: librewolf.net/#what-is-librewo

link veroandi   - Reply
veroandi@mastodon.social

I did but there are no names there. :(

I may sometimes use open-source tools that I don't know who made them. But I don't feel comfortable using them for a browser. If it's a honeypot created by intelligence agencies or North Korean hackers, I have no idea. 😬

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@veroandi It's a community fork. So, you have to meet their community. Scroll down the page to the "Core contributor" section. I see 8 profiles here.
You can check their public activities on Codeberg, and follow links on their profile. You can also discuss with them on their Matrix chat room.

link RejZoR   - Reply
rejzor@mastodon.social

I've gone Waterfox and in just 1 day returned to Firefox because so many things just didn't work that did and still do in Firefox. Which is weird but still.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@rejzor Yes, changing web browser can be difficult. My first hours with LibreWolf was a real maze. :blob_sweat: I'm really lucky I could speak about my issue on the Pepper&Carrot matrix room and received assistance from a more experienced user.

I updated on their bug tracker the thread that I found with the information I needed, for future users in the same situation as me.

link RejZoR   - Reply
rejzor@mastodon.social

I've tried and used so many browser in my life, but at the moment I have a priority of not using anything Google and to not deal with issues and BS. Firefox fits that despite all the idiocies Mozilla is doing as I don't have the time and nerves anymore to deal with random issues forks have that Firefox doesn't. Like, literally the first news streaming site for news I use didn't work in Waterfox and does in Firefox. So, there's that.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@rejzor Totally understandable 👍

link Christian   - Reply
ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social


I do not like what firefox mozilla is trying to do but. I like librewolf just... they can not enhance security by (in the past) delay the code for (weeks to) fixes. It is not good but sometimes takes days. We need to pull togeather and if librewolf fixed this i am fine to change..

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@ibrahim_cris For sure, yes, this is something I want to see in the long run: how quick LibreWolf get patched and released to security vulnerabilities.

But so far, this was really educative: I now better understand many Firefox privacy options not activated by default and that I never knew of existence. If I go back to Firefox, I'll be a more advanced user knowing the settings and the about:config options.

link LisPi   - Reply
lispi314@udongein.xyz

@ibrahim_cris Arguably by not integrating upstream's questionable features (which in some cases include new vulnerabilities), they can make it safer.

Upstream continuously making such increases the load on forks, as it makes cherry-picking and backporting security fixes harder.

That being said, a lot of the forks apparently mitigate this by simply gating off/disabling the vulnerable feature in the interim while a proper fix is being backported.

link Petunientopf   - Reply
petunientopf@mastodon.social

hachz. Das ist sweet und traurig gleichzeitig.

link Jeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)   - Reply
nekohayo@mastodon.social

Might we worth mentioning Epiphany (WebKitGTK) in the article for those who may be satisfied with a simpler browser that is still not based on Blink :blobcatcoffee:

Playing DRMed content with it isn't really an option, though.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@nekohayo Yes, I really like Gnome Web/Epiphany. I had also a look at the Plasma side, the Falkon browser.

And the more I think about my web browsing usage, the more I wonder why I want to keep all my browsing inside a single web browser.

Probably a habit I developed with the early web.

I might start to install more browsers and split up my web browsing habit depending on activities and the level of privacy and security I need for certain website.

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link   - Reply
elgregor@librem.one

I still use Firefox, but I disabled sending any data to Mozilla.

Thanks for not contributing to Chromium monopoly. :)

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@elgregor That's a good solution! My initiation to LibreWolf made me aware of many settings I never thought existing in Firefox (because suddenly all were turned on by default). It was really educative, and I'll probably benefit a lot of it if I'm going back to Firefox.

link technikhil   - Reply
technikhil@toot.cafe


For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...

link Louis   - Reply
louischance@piaille.fr

@technikhil I just gave #Librewolf and #Zenbrowser a try. Both seem to work perfectly fine, and reimporting my date from #Firefox was easy (which seems logical since they're both based on Firefox).
I'm not switching now though. I took a minute to check my Firefox settings and opt out from everything that seemed not to be data privacy friendly.

I'm wondering if those forks are actually viable if Firefox dies one day... So for now I'd rather not cut the branch I've been sitting on for 2 decades, wait and see.

I like the look of Zen browser though, looks like arc!

link technikhil   - Reply
technikhil@toot.cafe

@louischance Yep, perfectly rational... I too have not (yet) given up on Firefox, I have just started compartmentalizing what I use it for. The Firefox sync allows me to still keep parity between the 2 browsers, though given the direction Mozilla is going I am probably going to delete that account quite soon.
The similarity with Arc is what drew me to the Zen browser initially. I also like the amount of space it provides for the content in it's "compact mode" layout.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@technikhil @louischance Yes, Zen Browser was on my list when I tested, beautiful interface and screenshot on their website.

> I'm wondering if those forks are actually viable if Firefox dies one day...

Louis: yes, this THE central real question about all these forks. I personally don't think any forks around could survive that.

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link Sayed | সাঈদ 🇧🇩   - Reply
abusayed@mastodon.social

@technikhil @louischance

forks can survive if the maintainer team is 'for the people'. Look at "Jellyfin", a fork of " emby". Still surviving.

link Lux (it/they)   - Reply
Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone

For android, there’s also fennec on fdroid

link DotMouse   - Reply
MouseDotExecutable@mastodon.art

Nice!
I love the implication that the furry flame ball was always a wolf. Lol

I'm personally going to try out Zen and see how it goes.

link Greg   - Reply
eugen@infosec.exchange


For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.

Great art, as always!

link Arik   - Reply
pq1r@tech.lgbt

I've gone through this process myself today. I have some comments not found in your blog post:

  • Symlinking ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.librewolf works.

  • Synchronisation is turned off by default. Turning it on makes it work, but it also erases all the cookies. Okay, no biggie.

  • No dark mode by default, you have to set this manually. Unless you disable Resist Fingerprinting, which I kinda want to keep.

  • The built in password manager is disabled by default.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@pq1r oh oh, interesting for the symlink! Thank you for sharing. A dual workflow with keeping Firefox for my trusted websites and all search and random web browsing in Librewolf to not get tracked sounds like a possibility I haven't studied. I'll consider this, now.

link Arik   - Reply
pq1r@tech.lgbt

Just be aware that you can't use both on the same profile at the same time.

Also I noticed that running FF reverts LW to not syncing for some reason.

You can create separate profiles for trusted website using the -ProfileManager command line option and -P ProfileName to select the profile.

link Marnic   - Reply
marnic


Merci pour la découverte.
Mais le souci sera le même que Chrome au final, dépendre de l'évolution de FF pour le code principal.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@marnic Totalement! C'est même pour ça que dans ma métaphore, je voulais vraiment montrer que le petit renard reste un renard , tant bien même recouvert de cendre. Ca ressemble donc plutôt a une "community curated edition" de Firefox, mais je crois que c'est ce que je cherche là. Je commence à me méfier de Mozilla. Ils dérapent trop souvent ces derniers temps, et ça c'est que la partie publique...

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link Marnic   - Reply
marnic


Faut créer une nouvelle fondation type de LibreOffice 😅

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@marnic Oui 😁 Mais faudrait commencer cette fondation avec un sacré budget pour avoir déjà une grosse poignée de dev à plein temps dessus.

Je verrai bien la Wikipedia fondation dessus. Il me semble que leur trésorerie et leur moyen technique et leur familiarité avec le publique ferait que si ils entraient dans ce game, ça ferait un acteur de poids très rapidement.

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link Couscous   - Reply
couscous@mamot.fr


tiens ben justement, il s'était passé quoi pour openoffice à l'époque ? j'avais suivi que de loin mais il a bien fallu passer la main à libreoffice à ce moment là aussi ?
@marnic

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@couscous @marnic Les premiers paragraphes "Histoire" de fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOff te donneront une version bien plus détaillé que ce que j'avais en tête pour te répondre. 😆
C'était un sacré truc !

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link Couscous   - Reply
couscous@mamot.fr


oh wow en effet 😅
@marnic

link Fat_Farang   - Reply
Fat_Farang@mastodon.social

Long time LibreWolf user. I have recently installed "Floorp" on one of my machine, also a fork of Firefox. It has the added advantage of being non-US based (Japan). Seems good, but too early to be definitive.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Fat_Farang Nice, that the first web browser suggestion in all the comments I received that I didn't know of existence. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floorp , very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

link Guilliame of Aquaitaine   - Reply
dick@annihilation.social

@Fat_Farang idk why not use ice cat nigga/ or a diferent browsaer wow. oh yea there is no more browsers for windows fags only linux fags have choice

link James Heather   - Reply
Heather@pixelfed.social

And if LibreWolf was too strict. I can recommend Zen Browser.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@Heather That's a good recommendation, it was high on my list (and I love how fresh the vertical tab design is on it 😍 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Brow )

link Christen Lofland   - Reply
EkpyroticFrood@mastodon.social

Thank you for this. I had forgotten about LibreWolf and now is a great time to remember it again. I appreciate your introduction as well. It helps to know what I'm getting into and what I should warn others about before sending them to it.

link Luna chan   - Reply
Luna@mastodon.world

Got rid of Chrome for Chromium I guess Firefox will have to be replaced with an alternative as well since they decided to follow in Google's footsteps.

link Doubledado   - Reply
bigTanuki@social.linux.pizza

Thank you for being on the right side of history, like … always 😊

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@bigTanuki Thank you, but don't worry, I'm making many errors too, and I'll keep doing them as I often experiment with many new things.
I just hope I'll get comments helping me if I go accidentally on questionable territories and I'll have the brightness of mind to study them and readjust.

link vampirdaddy   - Reply
vampirdaddy@chaos.social


The catoon also works for MoonWolf.
🤭

link katy ✨   - Reply
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone

LibreWolf needs to adopt a Foxkeh like mascot since Mozilla refuses to do it even though it would make them so much bank and popularity. <3

link Shafik Yaghmour   - Reply
shafik@hachyderm.io

Check out the cyber cleanse document and their alternatives to browsers and all big tech platforms:

hachyderm.io/@shafik/114079918

link Prakash C   - Reply
prakasc@chaos.social

how do you compare waterfox? Thanks.

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@prakasc For Waterfox, I read their webpage, and the Wikipedia page only. The chapter about vulnerabilities was enough for me to not get motivated to explore more. Also a business model based on search result. Meh. But cool name.

link Spoooky Kagan MacTane (he/him)   - Reply
kagan@wandering.shop

The artwork and the alt text describing it are both poignant and touching.

I'm about to migrate from Firefox (which I've been using since it was Netscape 3.04) to Librewolf as well. It's nice to feel welcomed.

link Cedar Fen Farm Cedar Fen Farm   - Reply
oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

Can't seem to install on android. Tor works well.

link notable person   - Reply
notableperson@infosec.exchange

i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!

link CyborgNekoSica || Comms Open   - Reply
cyborgnekosica@socel.net

somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes

🖼️ original 

link flo   - Reply
fasnix@iceshrimp.de


Love it!
Would also like to see one cartoon with Firefox becoming Zen(fox), how that would work out? :)

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@fasnix Thank you!
No idea for a Zen version, but it can be a good writing exercice if you want to spend time figuring out in a text pad. Feel free to share the result here if you have something fun!

link Jessie Nabein :neofox_peek_owo:   - Reply
jessienab@wetdry.world

i will still honour and cherish my firefox plushy, which is free from the sins and bounds of a TOS or corporate overlord :blahaj_face:

link Ludovic :Firefox: :FreeBSD:   - Reply
usul@piaille.fr

good luck getting sec patches in time

link   - Reply
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works

Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn’t just funding but how to maintain they’re absolutely massive code bases.

Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.

Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.

link Ludovic :Firefox: :FreeBSD:   - Reply
usul@piaille.fr

@fruitycoder the group exists and is called blink, managed by google who got tired of working with apple on khtml and forked it to do what they wanted.

link scaro   - Reply
scaro@mamot.fr

je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?

link David Revoy Author, - Reply
davidrevoy

@scaro Merci. Sur mobile jusque là c'était Firefox sur un Android dégooglisé... enfin au mieu possible car c'est quasi impossible de faire un 100%.

Mais là je teste la semaine prochaine iode.tech/ , c'est du lineageos.org/ mélangé avec de la revente de matos reconditionné. Je donnerai des news sur le blog si ça fait bien le taf, surtout si au niveau photo/video ça arrive à suivre. ☺️

link scaro   - Reply
scaro@mamot.fr

alors je serai attentif à tes futures publications. Sur mon Fairphone avec Murena OS, je testerai le navigateur par défaut pour désinstaller dès que possible Firefox aussi. Iels verront vite la baisse de leur utilisation, sans doute lors des prochaines mises à jour...

link scaro   - Reply
scaro@mamot.fr

ah mais c'est un OS complet... je cherchais juste un navigateur pour mon Fairphone qui tourne sous Murena OS... mais je suis curieux de lire ton retour d'expérience qd même. En commençant par le navigateur inclus ;-)

link Kazriko   - Reply
kazriko@alcatir.com

I went Firefox -> Librewolf -> Floorp. It's nice to have a more similar user experience between my Firefox browser (Floorp) and my Chromium browser (Vivaldi)

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

Note that if you are concerning about security, you may want to enable Google Safe Browsing as well (I know this is from Google, but implementation from Mozilla is making sense and even Librewolf devs are considering enabling it if it wasn't for user self-compiling issues). I'm a CS student myself but I don't think I'm that savvy for checking every site I go though.

link JesseTong   - Reply
natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world

Oh, I am considering moving to LibreWolf currently too

link katy ✨   - Reply
pixiekat@tech.lgbt

foxkeh's best buddy moonwolf needs to be a thing :) librewolf needs a cute mascot! :blobcat3c:

link Taron   - Reply
DampfLoque@meow.social

mine became a brave, guess I was in the Super Robot Anime rabbit hole for too long.

link Mark Wyner Won’t Comply :vm:   - Reply
markwyner@mas.to

I was using LibreWolf for a minute, and absolutely loving it. Then the first update arrived and everything fell apart for me. I understand why they went the route they did for macOS, but it’s really hard to keep it updated on macOS. I really wish it was easier.

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dsdarkkogo@wizard.casa

@davidrevoy
Ironic.

the #librewolf depends on the #firefox


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